Baffled sump

The place to "speak geek"
Post Reply
User avatar
r10crw
Posts: 1966
Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:14 pm
Location: Aberdeenshire

Baffled sump

Post by r10crw » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:01 am

Anyone fitted a baffled sump to their 2zz? wanting to do this now but not sure whats all available, Ive seen the morroso but just wondered if any others are out there, cheers Craig.
Hairdresser at heart.

User avatar
BiggestNizzy
Posts: 8932
Joined: Sun May 27, 2007 6:47 pm
Location: Kilmarnock
Contact:

Re: Baffled sump

Post by BiggestNizzy » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:31 am

not me I couldn't understand it :P
Sent from my ZX SPECTRUM +2A

User avatar
kenny
Posts: 7666
Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:10 pm
Location: Bearsden

Re: Baffled sump

Post by kenny » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:34 am

Accusump seems to be the popular choice, Exiges.com is worth a look for some reviews.

User avatar
r10crw
Posts: 1966
Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:14 pm
Location: Aberdeenshire

Re: Baffled sump

Post by r10crw » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:03 pm

Did lok at it kenny just cant be arsed fitting it, have you anything fitted to yours?
Hairdresser at heart.

User avatar
r10crw
Posts: 1966
Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:14 pm
Location: Aberdeenshire

Re: Baffled sump

Post by r10crw » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:03 pm

Also I think you have to lose some boot space?
Hairdresser at heart.

User avatar
kenny
Posts: 7666
Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:10 pm
Location: Bearsden

Re: Baffled sump

Post by kenny » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:06 pm

Nothing fitted to mine, didn't think you lost boot space?

User avatar
ed
Posts: 9682
Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 12:33 pm

Re: Baffled sump

Post by ed » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:31 pm

Ali has it fitted to his car, yeah you do lose alot of boot space. :( cheers :thumbsup
Octopus Energy Referral Code (£50 each!) share.octopus.energy/light-lynx-588

User avatar
roadboy
Posts: 1599
Joined: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:51 pm
Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Contact:

Re: Baffled sump

Post by roadboy » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:55 pm

Morosso is defintely the best option. A far better idea than the Accusump to be honest.

HTH

Dan
SPS Automotive
Independent Lotus Specialists
http://www.spsautomotive.co.uk

User avatar
ryallm
Posts: 1800
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:56 pm
Location: At 15K preferably

Re: Baffled sump

Post by ryallm » Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:04 am

roadboy wrote:Morosso is defintely the best option. A far better idea than the Accusump to be honest.

HTH

Dan
Interesting. I remember reading a post from someone who had spoken to the guys at Lotus Sport, and they reckoned that for the Yota engine a baffled sump made little difference and the the Accusump was the only reliable way to stop oil starvation - not quite sure of the reasoning.

Doesn't seem to be much of an issue anyway - Yota Elises and Exiges are heavily tracked all over the country just every weekend and engine failures must be very rare, otherwise there would be reports about such problems all over Seloc, Pistonheads etc. I can only remember reading about 2 such failures. Must be loads of keen trackdayers here (Kenny, Mass etc) who have done many hundreds of laps of KH with no oil starvation showing. Then again KH has no long fast corners - maybe it is only an issue on certain tracks?

Mark

User avatar
kenny
Posts: 7666
Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:10 pm
Location: Bearsden

Re: Baffled sump

Post by kenny » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:05 pm

ryallm wrote:Must be loads of keen trackdayers here (Kenny, Mass etc) who have done many hundreds of laps of KH with no oil starvation showing. Then again KH has no long fast corners - maybe it is only an issue on certain tracks?

Mark
Would agree, Spa springs to mind as a potential problem but I was looking at the graphs when I borrowed Mass' datalogger a while back, I was regularly hitting 1.3g lateral on Duffus and Hairpin and one occassion that logged a 1.6g corner. That was only recording on half a dozen laps when I was not really going for it.

User avatar
roadboy
Posts: 1599
Joined: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:51 pm
Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Contact:

Re: Baffled sump

Post by roadboy » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:14 pm

You can hit high peak lateral G at any circuit but it is sustained high level lateral G that causes the problems.

The major problem with the Yota is sutained high revs and oil not draining back to the sump fast enough. That's where the higher capacity Morosso is a major help.

HTH

Dan
SPS Automotive
Independent Lotus Specialists
http://www.spsautomotive.co.uk

User avatar
alicrozier
Posts: 4394
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:58 pm
Location: Aberdeen

Re: Baffled sump

Post by alicrozier » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:15 pm

As Ed mentioned I have it on my car Craig. You do loose some boot space but it's tucked rear of the boot aperture so not too bad.
You're welcome to have a nosey at mine (I should have it back on Monday). I also have the technical notes on the Accusump, procedures, full parts list for the kit, schematic etc. if you need them.

Scotty's 2-11 also has the Accusump but fitted lower and longitudinally in his car. Strangely he doesn't loose any boot space... :lol:
All characters appearing in this post are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.
Any references to laptimes, speed or driving on the public highway are purely for dramatic effect.

User avatar
r10crw
Posts: 1966
Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:14 pm
Location: Aberdeenshire

Re: Baffled sump

Post by r10crw » Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:51 am

Thanks Ali, Ill probably take yu up on that. Think Ill be going for the morroso anyway, Ive a small leak on the current sump so it kills two birds. Still like to see the accusump though.
Hairdresser at heart.

User avatar
ryallm
Posts: 1800
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:56 pm
Location: At 15K preferably

Re: Baffled sump

Post by ryallm » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:12 pm

Interesting thread on PH on this with the reported views of a Lotus engineer http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topi ... 20accusump?

Post Reply