Pipercross Viper (111R) cleaning

Mr Spook · Post by **Mr Spook** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:52 pm

All this talk about keeping the foam clean has got me worried.
So I've got the cleaning stuff and now need to do the actual work.

The system was fitted by MMC so haven't really got much of a clue where to start.
Do I just slacken off one of the hose clip things and remove the whole thing, then go about cleaning the filter foam? Or is there some other way I should go about it?
Not a lot of space in there to see other means of removal.

Sorry if there is something obvious I'm missing...

Cheers.

Post by **Shug** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:10 pm

Yup - loosen what you can and take it out.

Get a pipercross cleaning kit - not stupidly expensive. I know you can get the oil from Halfrauds, so I suppose they should also have the detergent (which are the 2 constituent parts of the kit)

Soak the foam in detergent and then run water through it from the INSIDE OUT - not the other way, you'll just wash dirt into it. Don't blast it with a hose either, just a nice flow of water and take your time.

Let it air dry thoroughly - cotton filters tell you not to heat them (with a dryer or the like as it can shrink and damage the filter medium) so I suppose that also applies to foam.

When it's dry - give it a good spray in filter oil. The oil is actually the filtering part, not the foam - all it does is give a medium for the oil to sit in.

Then reassemble and you're laughing.

Post by **Shug** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:11 pm

I just re-read and you've got the kit... good stuff - on you go then

Take some foties and I can add them to the tech wiki (which is in progress)

Mr Spook · Post by **Mr Spook** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:46 pm

Cheers mate.

Will give it a go over the next few days and will try and take a few pics along the way.

One of the (many) good things about this forum is being given just that wee bit of confidence before you start dismantling your pride and joy!
Especially if you're as clueless as me...

Thanks again.

dezzy · Post by **dezzy** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:29 pm

Not as clueless as me though . . . !

Foam? Keeping it clean? What foam?

Sorry for stupid questions but ain't got a clue what you guys are talking about!

Mr Spook · Post by **Mr Spook** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:43 pm

The Pipercross induction system fitted to my car uses foam (or rather oil in the foam) to filter out particles from the air going into the engine.
It is a good idea to keep this foam and oil cleaned regurarily to stop crap getting into your engine - or indeed the foam from beaking down and depositing crap into the engine.
At least that's my take on the subject...

Post by **Shug** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:48 pm

Mr Spook wrote:The Pipercross induction system fitted to my car uses foam (or rather oil in the foam) to filter out particles from the air going into the engine.
It is a good idea to keep this foam and oil cleaned regurarily to stop crap getting into your engine - or indeed the foam from beaking down and depositing crap into the engine.
At least that's my take on the subject...

Correct - dezzy, unless you have bought a performance filter, yours will be the standard paper jobbie. The only maintenance to do with it is chuck it out and put a new one in at service!

mac · Post by **mac** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:52 pm

Keith,

Good luck cleaning the viper - I tried to clean Mandys at the weekend as it's beyond me how the hell you clean it properly - it appears to be bonded to the CF bit!!!!

I ended up poking it though with a coke can and giving it a bit of a rub and blow through with some compressed air.

Mac

Mr Spook · Post by **Mr Spook** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:01 pm

mac wrote:Good luck cleaning the viper - I tried to clean Mandys at the weekend as it's beyond me how the hell you clean it properly - it appears to be bonded to the CF bit!!!!

I ended up poking it though with a coke can and giving it a bit of a rub and blow through with some compressed air.

What you guys get up to at the weekend behind closed doors is just fine by me - did you take any pictures for the erm wiki?

The idea of poking it through with a coke can, never mind rubbing and blowing is brings tears to my eyes...

PS Thanks for calling mine a Viper!

dezzy · Post by **dezzy** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:06 pm

Cheers for clearing that up. Had no idea! (not got any extra kit in the car . . . . yet!

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Post by **campbell** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:47 am

Reminds me of the first time I extracted my permanent filter for cleaning...halfway round Stelvio2001 after the dustbowl that was the journey from Toledo to Caceres.

The crap that fell out that thing was astounding, and I swear it was worth 10bhp when I put it back in!

I guess a lot of it might have been Tut's though...he "donated" me that filter from his original S1 B&C 140 car when he "moved up in the world" to the QED upgrade nonsense, or whatever it was

I now run a K&N perm panel filter, with regular cleaning using bespoke cleaner and re-oiler kit whenever I do my annual summer service.

Campbell

Andy G · Post by **Andy G** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:09 am

mac wrote:Keith,

Good luck cleaning the viper - I tried to clean Mandys at the weekend as it's beyond me how the hell you clean it properly - it appears to be bonded to the CF bit!!!!

I ended up poking it though with a coke can and giving it a bit of a rub and blow through with some compressed air.

Mac

I thought that with mine, but it did come to bits with a bit of .......rough love

Post by **Shug** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:42 am

mac wrote:Keith,

Good luck cleaning the viper - I tried to clean Mandys at the weekend as it's beyond me how the hell you clean it properly - it appears to be bonded to the CF bit!!!!

I ended up poking it though with a coke can and giving it a bit of a rub and blow through with some compressed air.

Mac

It's not the viper you're thinking of though. It's the kit they fit to the 111R - basically a foam cone on a long bit of CF, pretty sure the foam section comes off on this one.

colin adams · Post by **colin adams** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:39 am

...and buy a couple of packs of elastoplast before you start to glue your knuckles together with when you finish, mine took me couple of hours and several square cms of skin
colin