Elise - Toyota engined - 134bhp ones .........

[a4drk]

Sorry if this has been posted before

Whats the difference between these & the 189bhp ones ?

Can you change the ECU or remap them to 189bhp ?

David

[tut]

The Elise S has a 1.6 engine as opposed to the 1.8.

N/A engines do not respond very well to re-mapping, and I have not heard of either engine being mapped for more power, though the 1.8 had an upgrade to move the VTEC point.

tut

[Rosssco]

I think you're thinking of the earlier Yota Elise's? If so, no, although both a 1.8 engines, they are quite different

The lower powered car uses a 1zz-fe, where as the 189bhp model is the 2zz-ge..

[a4drk]

ok, thanks guys.

I'm thinking of buying another Elise later on in the year & I'm just doing some homework.

Cheers
David

[IanD]

and tut is talking about the later Elise s from mid 2010 with a different 1.6 toyota 1ZR-FAE engine, same power as the earlier 1.8 1zz-fe
All toyota engines listed here. http://wiki.seloc.org/a/Toyota_engines
And as mentioned above the 1.8's were different engines so no upgrade option.

[tut]

Ah the good old days, 1.8, 118hp, take it or leave it..........

tut

[j2 lot]

And not the current Elise S either as that is supercharged

[campbell]

And the equiv power of the later 1.6 engine masks the fact that it's down on torque vs the 1.8 134bhp version although has better economy. Latter regarded as a Very Good Effort. 5 SPD box instead of 6.

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[campbell]

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[Dark]

The 134bhp 1ZZ-FE has variable valve timing (VVT) whereas the 189bhp 2ZZ-GE has variable valve timing and lift (VVTL). Both are 1.8 litres and have a 5-speed box.

The 1ZZ-FE has a nice spread of torque across the rev range and is very flexible. The 2ZZ-GE develops all it's power & torque quite high up the rev range, I think the cams open up over 6000rpm or something. I have heard that you can re-map the 2ZZ-GE to move the point at which the cams open up lower down the rev range.

The 1.6 1ZR-FAE is horrid (sorry!) unless you thrash the nuts off it. Max power & torque is similar to the 1ZZ-FE but the driving experience is completely different.

[Shug]

Just one wee correction - the 2ZZ-GE has a 6 speed box (certainly in the Elise application)

[Dark]

Just one wee correction - the 2ZZ-GE has a 6 speed box (certainly in the Elise application)

Correct!