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Steering Alignment & Geo

Post by craigieb » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:11 am

Please forgive my ignorance and confusion but I need an explanation from the technical gurus residing here :)

I was in a low-speed prang not so long ago, took elise into Murrays and was told steering alignment is slightly off. Steering wheel is about an inch clockwise off being dead straight, so that bit made sense to me.

My question is what's the difference between steering alignment and a "geo". Have read many posts about geos being done but am still none-the-wiser :?

And who should I get to do the work - given MMC have told me they need to send the car elsewhere for steering alignment anyway?

as always any advice gratefully received :)

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Post by mckeann » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:14 am

MMC use willie at CLCM. dont have the number to hand but a search on here will find it.


I would book it into willie for a steering alignment adjustment, its about 50 quid. if theres anything else that needs adjusted (camber/castor etc) then he will tell you and charge you more to rectify if he can

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Post by craigieb » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:28 am

thanks mckean :D
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Geo / Aligment / Hunter DSP 600 @ Bonnybridge

Post by Andy H » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:01 pm

I took my car to John at PRO-GRIP Tel 01324 810111

Can recommend. I removed all suspention, blasted & painted arms, new wheel bearings, toe links fitted. John set it up to my requested settings in 1 Hr.

Tell him Andy sent you.

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Post by simon » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:14 pm

When my car went in to CLCM it came back with a squint steering wheel and it pulled left. If you have the time and fancy a run north, take it to Mark Hutcheson in Inverurie and you'll get an excellent job :thumbsup

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Post by dr al » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:22 pm

DIY is possible, but it took my all bleedin' day and was SOOOOO fiddly!!

I don't think i'll ever be bothered doing it myself again!!

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Post by craigieb » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:56 pm

thanks guys :D
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Re: Geo / Aligment / Hunter DSP 600 @ Bonnybridge

Post by kenny » Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:03 am

Andy H wrote:I took my car to John at PRO-GRIP Tel 01324 810111

Can recommend. I removed all suspention, blasted & painted arms, new wheel bearings, toe links fitted. John set it up to my requested settings in 1 Hr.

Tell him Andy sent you.
I took my CTR there, good to hear he knows his way around Loti as well.

Highly recommend also :thumbsup

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Post by Andy G » Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:28 am

I went to Willie at CLCM, and he set my car up tremendously well.

Definately money well spent :D
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Post by Stewart » Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:44 pm

Booked into Mark's for tomorrow. I am then going to head up to Lossiemouth to see my brother. Hope the weather stays good.

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Post by robin » Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:35 am

Steering alignment = adjusting the toe angles of the front wheels so that they point in the right direction when the steering wheel is straight. Best done with driver sitting in car holding wheel straight ahead.

Geo = adjust all the angles on the steering and suspension (do this after changing ride height, after a bump and for a new car as they are never right). Also best done with driver in car, holding wheel straight ahead.

Front and rear camber (how much the wheels lean in).
Front and rear toe (how much wheels point out or in)
Front caster (how much the wheel leans back).
Rear bump steer (how much the rear wheels toe in/out when the suspension compresses).

Typically people just set the first two of these, as the caster is factory set to be something vaguely sensible and is a pain to adjust, and bump steer requires extra equipment. So normally when they say "geo" they mean toe+camber.

The first two (camber and toe) make a big difference to the handling of the car, so well worth getting them all set - but then you need to decide what to get them set to!

If it's a road-only car, then the factory standard settings are going to be fine (but don't for a minute think that cars leaving the factory have those settings ;-)).

For track use you might want more some negative camber at the front.

For extensive track use, you'll want your own personal setup, honed over hours and hours of testing (or just copy someone else's who is quicker than you).

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Post by craigieb » Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:15 pm

thanks robin :thumbsup
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Post by craigieb » Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:05 pm

would thorougly recommend John at PRO-GRIP. had the steering alignment done sat :thumbsup
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