Hurricane Fitting Instructions for Toyota VVTi Engine

Caveat Lector · Post by **Caveat Lector** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:45 pm

ngaff1 wrote:Theres claims of differences between the pre and post Oct '05 changes to the Toyota but dezzy hasn't had any problems and I've not had a single problem with it (shouldn't have said that should I )

Reduced power, don't know, not noticed any drop.

Intoxicating noise, ooooh yeah

I'm in Balerno so you're not far away, do you want a listen before you buy?

Neil

I'd appreciate that. Thanks. I'll send you a PM

YvoTuk · Post by **YvoTuk** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:40 pm

dezzy, there's a couple of things which are not completely correct.

To put things in perspective, I have written those instructions and have done the initial installs. I also designed all of it, so I think I do know where I'm coming from

First of all, the "nonsense" story.. I think my fingers are better trained then yours Sir... I never removed the wheelarch liner to get an original airfilter out. I guess it will have something to do with knowing where to find the screws etc. I do agree that removing the wheel / wheelarch liner is an easier way to do the job (afaik, that option is mentioned in the manual)

The MAF sensor can be taken off when the airfilter box is loose. So you just turn the box and are able to undo the screws

The double sided tape on the flappy thing isn't rubbish

I will need to have some thoughts here... Point is that this stuff needs to 'cure' for a while before getting at it's full strength. What I've seen a couple of times is that the flap got pulled out of the airvent adapter before it was able to cure. Maybe the instructions should advise to stick the flap on and put the whole thing aside for at least 24 hours.

I also saw a comment about oiling (don't know if it was in your post as can't read it back while writing this

The Hurricane kit comes with an oiled filter.. If it's unoiled, you will certainly notice it as it would be yellow-ish instead of green.

BobvanM pointed me this way, if he wouldn't have done that, I'd probably have never seen this. I'm always happy to add / change things in instructions, but it would be nice if you'd tell us

(that's also why we have a e-mail address in the first part of the instructions)

Thanks for the user pov, we really appreciate that

dezzy · Post by **dezzy** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:57 pm

YvoTuk, thanks for posting. I did mean to send off my comments on the instructions, but never got around to it. Completely forgot. I still don't think the instructions are detailed enough, and as your paying customer, I"m perfectly entitled to think that!

YvoTuk wrote: First of all, the "nonsense" story.. I think my fingers are better trained then yours Sir... I never removed the wheelarch liner to get an original airfilter out. I guess it will have something to do with knowing where to find the screws etc. I do agree that removing the wheel / wheelarch liner is an easier way to do the job (afaik, that option is mentioned in the manual)

If it's to do with knowing where to find the screws, etc., I'd recommend that you add details of exactly where they are.

YvoTuk wrote: The MAF sensor can be taken off when the airfilter box is loose. So you just turn the box and are able to undo the screws

If that's the case, then you should state that in the instructions and not tell people to remove the MAF sensor first.

YvoTuk wrote: The double sided tape on the flappy thing isn't rubbish I will need to have some thoughts here... Point is that this stuff needs to 'cure' for a while before getting at it's full strength. What I've seen a couple of times is that the flap got pulled out of the airvent adapter before it was able to cure. Maybe the instructions should advise to stick the flap on and put the whole thing aside for at least 24 hours.

If it needs time to cure, then yes, you should definitely include that in the instructions. I've now ended up using glue to stick the flap on to the adapter, but still can't get it to stick to the air intake on the car.

YvoTuk wrote: I also saw a comment about oiling (don't know if it was in your post as can't read it back while writing this The Hurricane kit comes with an oiled filter.. If it's unoiled, you will certainly notice it as it would be yellow-ish instead of green.

I think it would be good if you mentioned this in the instructions, or got your suppliers to mention it on their websites. I had no idea, and people here advised me that it would not come oiled. Furthermore, the filter felt dry when it arrived, so I thought it would be better to be safe than sorry and oil it. I have no idea what colour it is when it's not oiled.

YvoTuk wrote: BobvanM pointed me this way, if he wouldn't have done that, I'd probably have never seen this. I'm always happy to add / change things in instructions, but it would be nice if you'd tell us (that's also why we have a e-mail address in the first part of the instructions)

As I said above, I always intended to email you feedback but just completely forgot. I'm therefore glad you found this post and hope that you take it positively and update the instructions.

I think you make an excellent product and it sounds fantastic on the car . . . my only complaint was about the instructions and it's good to see someone who cares what their paying customers think of their product.

ngaff1 · Post by **ngaff1** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:44 pm

YvoTuk,
Love your product

. Your instructions were useful but I have to say that I also found dezzy's update/hands on report very helpful. Didn't know you were on the forum, will pm you with a further comment.
Neil

mac · Post by **mac** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:00 pm

It is possible that the double-sided tape requires a bit more ambient temps to work than those you find in Scotland?

Not having a pop but I've found that sometimes your instructions are a bit hard to follow - perhaps something is lost in translation or that what you call a "blah blah" is different to what we call a "blah blah" (recently fitted the HID's to the wife's s2 - which are superb btw)

It is very very hard writing instructions as you don't want to assume the person knows too much - but again you don't want to assume they know too little as they will get bored reading the instructions. What I've done in the past is write the instruction and then give them to a novice and see how they get on.

If anyone disagrees that writing instructions is hard then I challenge them to write instruction on how to make a boiled egg.

2p

Mac

ngaff1 · Post by **ngaff1** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:04 pm

mac wrote:I challenge them to write instruction on how to make a boiled egg.
Mac

Dezzy,
You up for the challenge?

dezzy · Post by **dezzy** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:24 pm

ngaff1 wrote:
mac wrote:I challenge them to write instruction on how to make a boiled egg.
Mac

Dezzy,
You up for the challenge?

Erm . . .

. . .

1. Find a chicken
2. . . . .

YvoTuk · Post by **YvoTuk** » Wed May 02, 2007 11:35 am

..thanks for the comments guys, it indeed is hard to write instructions. First of all, English is not my native language, so things do get lost in translation from time to time

Now... talking about things getting lost in translation.. I just came back from Italy where I ate egss. ....from the egg plant...

I wonder what sound that plant is producing