Harnesses

Rich H · Post by **Rich H** » Thu May 25, 2006 11:16 am

I like my harnesses all the time and I wouldn't want my 3 points back, makes the odd junction a little exciting cos you can't see very well but other than that they are great.

Not so great if you have thick pax who can't work them out. The g/f likes them as she is too short to reach the pax footrest so she is more comfortable and doesn't slide about as much.

Like Mac I don't see how fitting both is going to make much difference to safety, it's a fiberglass seat anyway. Just be prepared for the tangle of belts that will prolly ensue with both fitted....

Rich

Post by **Shug** » Fri May 26, 2006 10:05 am

RICHARDHUMBLE wrote:
Like Mac I don't see how fitting both is going to make much difference to safety, it's a fiberglass seat anyway. Just be prepared for the tangle of belts that will prolly ensue with both fitted....

Rich

Nope, I don't see a problem either, but it's in MSA rules that any bolt securing a harness must be used for that purpose only. In other words, you can't just piggy it on to a seat mount bolt or something. So, the shared mount for the lap+strap and the harness would fail you, if the car was scrutied for a competetive event.

mac · Post by **mac** » Fri May 26, 2006 6:38 pm

It's down the extra load exerted on the bolt by the lever arm effect of having the load situated further away.

Might make a huge difference is your the size of an elephant.....

Mac

robin · Post by **robin** » Sat May 27, 2006 7:30 am

mac wrote:It's down the extra load exerted on the bolt by the lever arm effect of having the load situated further away.

Might make a huge difference is your the size of an elephant.....

Mac

Which you are in a -10g stop! I'm still not a fan of harnesses in road cars. Two problems (a) most of the time people won't do them up tight enough to work properly when you crash (b) the reduced visibility that you get when they are done up properly increases your chances of being a SMIDSY ... (Sorry Mate I didn't See You).

Robin

mac · Post by **mac** » Sat May 27, 2006 9:22 am

robin wrote:
mac wrote:It's down the extra load exerted on the bolt by the lever arm effect of having the load situated further away.

Might make a huge difference is your the size of an elephant.....

Mac
Which you are in a -10g stop! I'm still not a fan of harnesses in road cars. Two problems (a) most of the time people won't do them up tight enough to work properly when you crash (b) the reduced visibility that you get when they are done up properly increases your chances of being a SMIDSY ... (Sorry Mate I didn't See You).

Robin

Me neither - but then I don't class my car as a road car - it normally goes from garage to track and back. I'm even considering doing MT in Mandy's car so that I don't have the restrictions imposed by the harnesses.

Mac

Rich H · Post by **Rich H** » Mon May 29, 2006 10:18 pm

Mine are f'ing tight and so are my paxes. They don't like it much, but them's the rules! No point having them unless they are tight antway, may as will not have them on.

I do take extra care around junctions and I'll swing wide to see if I have too.

Rich

Stewart · Post by **Stewart** » Mon May 29, 2006 10:51 pm

Just installed harnesses this weekend. I haven't been too far so the jury is still out. I do feel a bit more "connected" with the car, but as Rich says you do have approach junctions at a new angle. Kind of reminds me of a Mk 1 MR2 as the visibility in that was pretty poor at some junctions.
Not had any passengers yet, but that may be a PITA.
I didn't keep the 3 point belts in as I didn't seem to have the correct connections. I also figured that the harnesses would really get in the way and scratch all the chasis rails if they are not connected.
Stewart

Rich H · Post by **Rich H** » Mon May 29, 2006 10:57 pm

Enjoy them, but beware multi story car parks as you can't reach the ticket machine....

(I reckon I can get under barrier at the Debenhams one in Dundee!)

Post by **simon** » Mon May 29, 2006 11:00 pm

I can get under the barrier at RM Condor

Rich H · Post by **Rich H** » Mon May 29, 2006 11:08 pm

Obviously this is for research purposes only, as this would be evasion of the parking fee...

Might leave the poor attendant wondering why there are 200 cars on the computer but none in his car park...

GregR · Post by **GregR** » Tue May 30, 2006 8:49 am

simon wrote:I can get under the barrier at RM Condor

you often pop in to see the Marines Si...?

mac · Post by **mac** » Wed May 31, 2006 8:17 am

Just as a matter of interest - what Harness's do you have fitted? I know Shug has the luke ones.

Mac

Rich H · Post by **Rich H** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:49 pm

Luke from Liz parts. I like the aircraft style buckle (Pos not MOT friendly...) and the red button type looks cheap and nasty (IMOH!)

HTH
Rich

mac · Post by **mac** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:59 pm

I've got the willians with a similar style buckle. Both MOT's I've asked if it will be a problem - they look and say - if it's good enough for an F1 car then it's good enough for me. Besides I can exit the harness with one hand - I need both to get out of the car!

Mac

Post by **simon** » Wed May 31, 2006 6:42 pm

GregR wrote:
simon wrote:I can get under the barrier at RM Condor
you often pop in to see the Marines Si...?

When I go to the ski slope there, yes. Not sure what you're hoping for from them