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Re: Project V6 Elise

Post by Rosssco » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:24 pm

Looking good as usual Paul.. Any chance in hell Dan's S/C kit will fit? I assume no due its mounting location on the front of the engine..?

Kev, I'll need to get a look at this once all finshed and you've had fun with it, just because your in my neck of the woods (take a ticket, get in line he says..). I've been toying with the idea of some of the GM V6's which are compatible with the VX gearbox.. I digress...

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Re: Project V6 Elise

Post by Woodsport » Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:47 am

Hi Ross, yes i think there will be space for that SC, there is a good gap where it could run, and the 1mz TRD unit would also fit too.

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Re: Project V6 Elise

Post by Alex 111s » Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:23 am

Hi Paul - which radiator did you select? Is it a single core or a double core rad?

I'm only asking as I just fitted one of these to my K-Series Elise due to failure of the OEM unit &someday may want to do a conversion.
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Re: Project V6 Elise

Post by Kev » Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:04 pm

Rosssco wrote:Kev, I'll need to get a look at this once all finshed and you've had fun with it, just because your in my neck of the woods (take a ticket, get in line he says..). I've been toying with the idea of some of the GM V6's which are compatible with the VX gearbox.. I digress...

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No bother mate :thumbsup
Woodsport wrote:Hi Ross, yes i think there will be space for that SC, there is a good gap where it could run, and the 1mz TRD unit would also fit too.
I like the sound of this for the future :D :D
Alex 111s wrote:Hi Paul - which radiator did you select? Is it a single core or a double core rad?

I'm only asking as I just fitted one of these to my K-Series Elise due to failure of the OEM unit &someday may want to do a conversion.
http://www.hangar111.com/web-store/204- ... ement.html

cheers,

Alex
Hi Alex, Paul fitted the upgraded one from Elise-shop, http://www.elise-shop.com/aluminium-hig ... anguage=en, so no real difference from the Hangar111 one you fitted
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Re: Project V6 Elise

Post by Mikie711 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:14 pm

Might be worth dropping Craig at MMC a e-mail and asking how much the Lotus triple pass radiator costs (same as the Elise parts one).
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Re: Project V6 Elise

Post by Woodsport » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:02 pm

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Re: Project V6 Elise

Post by Scotty C » Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:20 pm

Can I ask what your doing about upgrading the suspension to cope with the extra weight?
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Re: Project V6 Elise

Post by Woodsport » Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:32 am

There is only a 50kg (roughly) increase over stock which the standard suspension would easily cope with, but this car has had a suspension upgrade anyway. There is never any need to upgrade the suspension on any other car we fit the V6 to, it's a very light engine compared to some V6 engines.

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Re: Project V6 Elise

Post by hiscot » Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:31 am

Woodsport wrote:There is only a 50kg (roughly) increase over stock which the standard suspension would easily cope with, but this car has had a suspension upgrade anyway. There is never any need to upgrade the suspension on any other car we fit the V6 to, it's a very light engine compared to some V6 engines.
Paul does that include the gearbox, all the fabrication ect ect it would be nice to see a total car weight figure , as I expect being an elise most prospective buyers would be asking this
It may be worth you doing a real scale weigh in whilst you still have the car ?
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Re: Project V6 Elise

Post by Woodsport » Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:43 am

My weights are estimations based on other conversions we have done and does include the gearbox, certainly the 2gr that MWR put into an Elise weighs a good 40kg more (with E153 gearbox too) than a 1mz with S54 package and they say they have no issues with that extra weight.

I don't have any access to a weighbridge, i'll leave that to Kev when he gets the chance.

The 1mz will return 20-25mpg with mixed driving, but that can drop to 15mpg when you open it up everywhere, but likewise some owners have seen 30-35mpg on motorway runs and these were all heavier cars than the Elise.

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Re: Project V6 Elise

Post by Scotty C » Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:20 am

if its only 40kg then it should be fine for the road and the odd trackday.

Really looking forward to seeing/hearing the car when it gets back up to Aberdeen :thumbsup

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Re: Project V6 Elise

Post by OlberJ » Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:55 am

I see 25mpg on a spirited Hoon.

Did see 30 once but that was 60mph Motorway for 250miles :evil:

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Re: Project V6 Elise

Post by roadboy » Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:26 pm

My Honda S1 did 43mpg on a run down to Donington. 75-80 tuts all the way. :D

It's a shame there wasn't the opportunity to get the car on the cornerweight scales before and after the conversion. I did it on my S1 when I stuck the Honda in. Didn't change anything else and it was 16kg heavier afterwards.

It will always be a bit of a guess if it's weighed afterwards as standard S2 weights vary greatly.

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Re: Project V6 Elise

Post by OlberJ » Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:51 pm

If there's that much variation then the before doesn't really matter does it?

Definitely get it done after though and a decent power run, then you know what you're starting with :thumbsup

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Re: Project V6 Elise

Post by Shug » Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:57 pm

OlberJ wrote:If there's that much variation then the before doesn't really matter does it?

Definitely get it done after though and a decent power run, then you know what you're starting with :thumbsup
Quite the opposite. When you're selling a product to weight-obsessives like the average Elise owner, an accurate figure on how much weight the conversion adds is a useful thing to have in the sales blurb. That way, the interwebs don't have more hearsay to 'debate', like was the case with early Honda installs.
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