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Re: Oops.

Post by pete » Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:16 am

robin wrote:To avoid the vice, remove hinge as you suggested but simply remount upside down and then the obscured bottom bolt will become the top bolt :-)

If the bolt is stuck fast I suggest an impact driver ... assuming the thread is alloy and the bolt is steel and that there is or was no Duralac used, you will need to break free the threads that will be "welded" together; the impact driver will do this whilst minimizing the risk of damaging the bolt head.

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Re: Oops.

Post by BiggestNizzy » Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:43 am

Pete do you remember what size the bolts where M10/M12 x 30/40 ? I will grab some new ones on the way home.
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Re: Oops.

Post by pete » Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:33 am

pete wrote:
robin wrote:To avoid the vice, remove hinge as you suggested but simply remount upside down and then the obscured bottom bolt will become the top bolt :-)

If the bolt is stuck fast I suggest an impact driver ... assuming the thread is alloy and the bolt is steel and that there is or was no Duralac used, you will need to break free the threads that will be "welded" together; the impact driver will do this whilst minimizing the risk of damaging the bolt head.

Cheers,
Robin

Thanks. (Exits to garage)
The hinge seems to be fastened to a beam running through the door. The door is now off, and in the boot of the Citroën - hopefully the friendly local motor engineer can shift it with some heat...
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Re: Oops.

Post by Shug » Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:36 am

Probably key to point out to them that the door is plastic before they get carried away, h'mkay?
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Re: Oops.

Post by BiggestNizzy » Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:44 am

And aluminium melts at 600 Degrees, what about using cold to free it. you get cold sprays
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Re: Oops.

Post by pete » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:19 pm

Ok. Heat on the end of the bolt didn't work. Next step remove door closer and heat the back of hinge which is the extrusion itself. Any other ideas? Motor engineer doubts an impact wrench will help.
Having said that anyone mr killie have one i could borrow?
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Re: Oops.

Post by pete » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:50 pm

There is a very real chance I will never get my car back together again, isn't there?
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Re: Oops.

Post by Shug » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:53 pm

No.

Gaffer tape is that car's friend...
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Re: Oops.

Post by pete » Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:05 pm

Shug wrote:No.

Gaffer tape is that car's friend...

Haha. In pace of the door?

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Oops.

Post by RDH » Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:06 pm

pete wrote:
Shug wrote:No.

Gaffer tape is that car's friend...

Haha. In pace of the door?

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Re: Oops.

Post by pete » Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:22 pm

200 quid for the new hinge (rapidly coming to the conclusion that bolt is there to stay).

Or a length of tape to stop me falling out, or one of those chains they have on kiddies rollercoasters.
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Re: Oops.

Post by woody » Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:32 pm

pete wrote:200 quid for the new hinge (rapidly coming to the conclusion that bolt is there to stay).

Or a length of tape to stop me falling out, or one of those chains they have on kiddies rollercoasters.

Not sure I follow what bolt is the probelm? Cant it be drilled out?

I can mabye get you a splash of something more effective than wd40?
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Re: Oops.

Post by robin » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:47 pm

The bolt is the one that goes through the eye at the top and bottom; top one came out, bottom one won't (so in normal life it lives pointing upwards).

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Re: Oops.

Post by woody » Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:26 pm

robin wrote:The bolt is the one that goes through the eye at the top and bottom; top one came out, bottom one won't (so in normal life it lives pointing upwards).

Cheers,
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Can you get the hinge off of the door as well as the car?

Will definitely be able to do something with it then.
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Re: Oops.

Post by pete » Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:10 am

woody wrote:
robin wrote:The bolt is the one that goes through the eye at the top and bottom; top one came out, bottom one won't (so in normal life it lives pointing upwards).

Cheers,
Robin

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Can you get the hinge off of the door as well as the car?

Will definitely be able to do something with it then.
Any help and advice welcome (I'm not mechanically minded you know, I just like learning new stuff).

The hinge is made up of two parts, a stator that fits to the car, and a beam that goes through the door. I have removed the stator from the car but I haven't removed the beam from the door.

Clearly if I buy an new assembly I'll have to remove the beam, which presently I am avoiding doing.

Option 1.
Buy impact wrench (Dewalt 80 quid from toolstation at the moment and I have a battery to fit).
This might not work. But I would end up with a new tool.

Option 2.
Take grinder to the stator, this will reveal the bolt, but might not release it. Only 30 quid (plus VAT and delivery). But might not work. Fallback is a whole new assembly.

Option 3.
Lean on the f.ucker with a scaffolding pole. It might break. Then try option 2.

The door is still attached to the beam. Hmmm...

Woody if you can get it off that would be ace. How?

Advice, as always, welcome.

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