Project V6 Elise

[campbell]

Fascinating.

Definitely looking forward to watching the progress.

I guarantee Robin will be guddling about in it, electronically, within a few weeks!

[Woodsport]

Thanks for the welcomes chaps, (waves to Olie!) , Kev sorry it has taken so long to make a start on this, there never seems to be enough hours in the day here but i should be able to make good progress shortly.

The reason for choosing this engine over the 2gr-fe is that i really do feel the 2gr is too heavy for an Elise, i know MWR built one but we know how much the 2gr affects a Mk1 Mr2 in the handling dept (we have built the only two Mk1 Mr2 2gr's in existence), and while they are phenomenally quick cars i do feel that the handling is somewhat compromised. Part of that is the need to use the E153 Mk2 Mr2 turbo gearbox which itself is also heavy, i feel the Elise must concentrate on weight more than anything.

The 1mz-fe is a fantastic engine, forget BHP numbers, they really don't matter, this engines party trick is its torque delivery which is spread right across the rev range and kicks in fully from 2500rpm right to the redline, no lag, no stirring up and down the box, just drop the pedal in any gear and go. The best bit is the weight, it's the lightest V6 in the Toyota range and in our Mk1 and Mk3 Mr2's you cannot feel any upset to the handling at all (Olie will testify!) , apart from it wanting to have an overwhelming urge to kill you with massive amounts of oversteer when you apply the power too greedily on corners! Apart from that it's fine

We are in unknown territory on this build, i don't even know if i can make it all happen yet, same goes with many of the first time builds i've done before, but let's just say i've never failed to complete any conversion, it should be interesting times ahead.

I want this conversion to be a lightweight affordable torque-monster for Elise owners, with tuning options available too, part of using the Mk2 Mr2 NA gearbox means we can add an LSD (torsen type) and also carry out an extended 5th gear conversion for better motorway cruising and a higher top end, it's also a fairly light transmission, probably only a few kilos heavier than the K series box, i'll weigh both and let you know. We will also be having a nice equal length supported driveshaft arrangement, which makes a big difference over the unequal set up.

Regarding costs, i can't release any details yet until we know what we are faced with on this build, let's just say because Kev has been brave enough to give us his car as a test mule he is getting the deal of a lifetime which can never be repeated, but the cost of this conversion to Joe public will be considerably less than any other conversion package out there.

This thread will be as detailed a build as i can manage, let the games begin!

[Kev]

Kev sorry it has taken so long to make a start on this, there never seems to be enough hours in the day here but i should be able to make good progress shortly.

No worries mate, like I said at the start, there's no hurry

[pete]

Can I suggest that you update the build by editing the first post, then just posting an extra post to show that there has been an update (for build stuff). Like Mac Lotus did in his build thread.

It makes it very easy to read and gives one complete start to finish post for posterity.

Pete

(Buiild post junkie)

[Woodsport]

No problem Pete, i can do that.

[Alex 111s]

I'm watching this one with interest.
Good luck Paul. hope this works technically & as a new venture.

[Victor Meldrew]

Where were you when I needed you most......?

[graeme]

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[foz01]

what engine is this, ie what cars did it/does it appear, not fmailiar with the acronyms?

[philthy]

toyota camry, says that half way down page 2

[foz01]

Ok, serves me right for skimming pages 1&3.

Next question, why? Because you can and it sounds nice ain't a good enough reason IMHO!?

[Shug]

Ok, serves me right for skimming pages 1&3.

Next question, why? Because you can and it sounds nice ain't a good enough reason IMHO!?

Not his opinion, it seems.

Plus, buckets of torque across the rev-range. It's not all about headline horsepower or peak torque figures. Methinks the thoughts are for a great road engine - civilised and quick with a great noise. Seems fair enough to me?

[philthy]

what he said ^ and its different from the normal honda/audi conversions

[foz01]

Fair enough

[OlberJ]

Next question, why? Because you can and it sounds nice ain't a good enough reason IMHO!?

No, but it helps. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVkqCFhO ... re=related

It's a great engine on the road, leaves you with a big smile each and every time.