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Braided brake hoses + Fluid
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:33 am
by KennyT
During the amazing trackday on Friday my brake pedal went pretty spongey, I'm using Alloy belled disks, Carbotech XP8's and RBF600 fluid.
The fluid has been in a while so too many heat cycles is probably the problem, I've just bought Stainless brake hoses and just about to buy some more RBF600 but wondering how much fluid I will need for the change? Will one 500ml bottle be enough?
I was looking at the Seloc Wiki guide for changing the lines and it seems to make it very complicated, I was planning on doing one corner at a time and just pump the pedal until the air was out and I started to get clean fluid through? Can't be too much more to it is there!?
I know about turning the fronts upside down and winding the rear piston in too.
Can anyone share their experiences with me!?
Re: Braided brake hoses + Fluid
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:03 am
by philthy
you will need 1 litre, more if you get trapped air.
Re: Braided brake hoses + Fluid
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:26 am
by Baggy
I just did mine without a pressure bleeder and used less than 1/2 a litre.
I did do the trick where you pump the front pistons quite far out before hand and then push them in to displace any air in the caliper. Don't know if that specifically is what worked but pedal is fine.
rears took a fair bit of bleeding
Re: Braided brake hoses + Fluid
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:00 pm
by roadboy
It is possible to do it with half a litre but not if you want to actually change the fluid in the system too. It holds more than 500ml.
I'd make sure you have at least 1.5 litres if you've not done it before.
Dan
Re: Braided brake hoses + Fluid
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:09 pm
by KennyT
Ok thanks for the advice guys, I'll be changing the fluid in the whole system so will gor for more than enough fluid.
Money money money!!!

Re: Braided brake hoses + Fluid
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:37 pm
by Stevoraith
Remember I've got an eazibleed kit in the garage if you need it Kenny.
Re: Braided brake hoses + Fluid
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:55 am
by Modena Scotland
I've been using the Castrol SRF for the last 2.5 years of SOME track use. Never failed me yet

Re: Braided brake hoses + Fluid
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:43 pm
by Nig The Stig
Do you not need to remove the front clam to change the front pipes?
Re: Braided brake hoses + Fluid
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:57 pm
by KennyT
Nig The Stig wrote:Do you not need to remove the front clam to change the front pipes?
I'm looking at the following guide for an S1 from Wiki Seloc and it says you need to drill a little slot out of the windscreen frame, thats ok:
http://www.elisenet.plus.com/BrakeHoses.htm
reading it again, it shouldn't be too big a job.
Ordered 3x 500ml bottles of RBF600 from opie, now all I need is a calliper wind back tool, Does anyone in the Aberdeen/Fife area have one I could borrow for the weekend?
Re: Braided brake hoses + Fluid
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:53 pm
by Corranga
KennyT wrote:now all I need is a calliper wind back tool, Does anyone in the Aberdeen/Fife area have one I could borrow for the weekend?
Use thin pliers?
For reference, the tool Halfords sell DOES NOT fit S1 rear callipers.
Re: Braided brake hoses + Fluid
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:47 am
by Shug
Nig The Stig wrote:Do you not need to remove the front clam to change the front pipes?
S2 yes, S1 no.
Re: Braided brake hoses + Fluid
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:10 am
by roadboy
Shug wrote:Nig The Stig wrote:Do you not need to remove the front clam to change the front pipes?
S2 yes, S1 no.
S2 exige & 111R yes, all rover engine cars no.
Just to clarify.
Dan
Re: Braided brake hoses + Fluid
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:19 am
by neil
Kenny
I've got a caliper wind back tool you're welcome to borrow. You'd need to pick it up tonight or first thing tomorrow morning though as I'm heading away for the weekend.
I'm in the centre of Aberdeen.
Neil
Re: Braided brake hoses + Fluid
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:48 pm
by KennyT
Cheers Neil that would be great. I'm at work in Huntly Street and live next to the Hilton tree tops in the west end, got the car so can pick it up any time, tonight would be best.
I'll PM you my phone number.
Re: Braided brake hoses + Fluid
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:55 pm
by neil
I'll give you a call when I get out of work. I'm in the west end too so a pickup should be easy