wind my neck in? (gaining more headroom)

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wind my neck in? (gaining more headroom)

Post by istoo » Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:24 am

I am a shade under 6ft3, not the tallest elise owner but i must have a long back or something as the roof is always close. my wife always comments if she is following behind, she can see my hair... so i had a harness bar and harnesses fitted to satisfy her need that my head might grate along the ground if it goes upside down.

The issue is here;
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Question is, can i fit a seat that is lower to give me more headroom?
I saw lydell70s car for sale and he has an exige roof which appears to be a bit taller inside for us with long necks/backs/ whatever.

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Re: wind my neck in? (gaining more headroom)

Post by tut » Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:53 am

I am the opposite, I fitted spacers under the seat to raise it.

You could give me a few inches and that would cure it.

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Re: wind my neck in? (gaining more headroom)

Post by Shug » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:02 am

The seat is pretty much already on the floor. I'm sure you could lose max an inch or so if you got a carbon or fibreglass motorsport seat with no padding directly on the floor (removing the adjuster) but it might not be comfy for a predominantly road car.
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Re: wind my neck in? (gaining more headroom)

Post by Mikie711 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:17 am

Also that picture is with a helmet on which will stick up a bit further than your head.
Just remember to slump in your seat if you roll it. :thumbsup
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Post by pete » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:27 am

I'm the same heightb as you and have avoided harnesses as my plan is to slump down. This is an awful plan.

There was someone who has dropped the seat successfully, I researched it a while ago, I think a Tillet seat might help, but beware I think someone on PH just lopped off bits of the subframe which you can't do...

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Post by woody » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:24 am

pete wrote:I'm the same heightb as you and have avoided harnesses as my plan is to slump down. This is an awful plan.

Sorta goes against physics as well, as I found out a few years ago.

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Post by steve_weegie » Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:38 am

woody wrote: Sorta goes against physics as well, as I found out a few years ago.
Oh, I thought your head had always been sporting that quintessentially flat top look, Woody :shock:
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Post by woody » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:40 pm

steve_weegie wrote:
woody wrote: Sorta goes against physics as well, as I found out a few years ago.
Oh, I thought your head had always been sporting that quintessentially flat top look, Woody :shock:

It's the flat-topped finger look that I'm referring to. :wink:

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Post by ryallm » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:48 pm

Sector 111 in the States have some seat brackets for exactly this problem http://www.sector111.com/parts/track/in ... _rails.cfm Not sure how effective they are but I'm sure there will be plenty of chat about them over on lotustalk.com

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Post by istoo » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:07 pm

Mikie711 wrote:Also that picture is with a helmet on which will stick up a bit further than your head.
Just remember to slump in your seat if you roll it. :thumbsup
and i am craning forward as well, its worse on the straights. i lean forward to improve my visibility. But on general driving my heed is right on the roof line, also acutely aware of being hit by more flying debris than the rest of you. Tut pinged up a bloody sore stone on a cabrach drive a few months ago...
ryallm wrote:Sector 111 in the States have some seat brackets for exactly this problem http://www.sector111.com/parts/track/in ... _rails.cfm Not sure how effective they are but I'm sure there will be plenty of chat about them over on lotustalk.com
good find!
although noticed this on a few sector111 sites, i have an S2 111S with is 2003, will it fit? Or if my limited knowledge is right, the elise wasn't on the dealership market until 2004 in the USA? It seems a heck of a price, but if it means my head doesn't act as a fifth wheel, then sounds like my ticket!
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Seems they do this;
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also found this thread with a guy who is 6ft5.
http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f92/tal ... it-122559/

Also other chat about adjusting the tilt on the standard seat to give more clearance but reduces knee/wheel issues (which i also have, but only in 5th, luckily my elise isn't fast enough to hit 5th on KH.


I thought about race seats with no padding, intention is weekend/track car. its a second car which i use occasionally. more the distance of drives that would worry me, i do have lower back pain anyway. so a hard seat isn't first choice.

Tut, i think they are called booster seats!

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Re: wind my neck in? (gaining more headroom)

Post by Dipper » Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:49 pm

ian
im assuming you have stumpy legs for a 6'3" lad. that should put your legs somewhere in the region of mine. i had the same wheel/knee issue. it was solved by fitting a removable wheel with 40mm spacer(think the wheel is also a bit smaller. can't remember). fairly sure you get the spacers/hub without going down the removable route as well.

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Post by tut » Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:28 pm

graeme is 6'5"

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Post by istoo » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:01 pm

Dipper wrote:ian
im assuming you have stumpy legs for a 6'3" lad. that should put your legs somewhere in the region of mine. i had the same wheel/knee issue. it was solved by fitting a removable wheel with 40mm spacer(think the wheel is also a bit smaller. can't remember). fairly sure you get the spacers/hub without going down the removable route as well.
Nope, long legs as far as i am aware, you know you sold me a Nicolai three years ago! i am just an odd shape... oh i don't know! But a lowering of the seat would help, the wheel/knee only an issue with fifth.

My pal Scott has been for a passenger run in one, he is tall... 6 ft 11
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Post by istoo » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:02 pm

tut wrote:graeme is 6'5"

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whats his username here tut?
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Re: wind my neck in? (gaining more headroom)

Post by fd » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:10 pm

You shouldn't use a harness if your roll over protection is marginal . . you need to be able to move your head in the case of a roll and you cannot do that in harnesses . . . harnesses greatly reduce your ability to avoid getting the top of your head planned off . . .
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