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Where do toelinks brake??
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:56 pm
by mckeann
Where is it that toelinks normal brake and/or develop play??
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:00 pm
by mac
Neil,
I don't think it's a "wear" item. By that I mean that if it's worn then it needs replacing.
A worn toelink would allow the wheel some degree of movement (depending on the amount of wear) which will give you dynamic geometery in a static plane as you corner.
If in doubt I would replace.
Mac
Re: Where do toelinks brake??
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:14 pm
by robin
mckeann wrote:Where is it that toelinks normal brake and/or develop play??
On the elise there are three possible scenarios I think:
(1) ball joint at one end or other.
(2) the bolt that goes through the rear lower wishbone mount ovalises the subframe and so can move about in that.
(3) where fitted, the bracket bolted to the bottom of the upright cracks and allows the vertical bolt some movement.
I have only ever seen these cracks develop on Tut's car, and this seemed to be the result of excess droop at some point. Interesting tut also had the ovalisation problem in the subframe (actually his was just straight corrosion).
Removing the outboard end and bracket for inspection should be possible without significant disruption to geo. Inboard end is easy enough too, but undoing/tightening the bolt is a bit of a scunner. Also it's easy to think you've done it up when you haven't, leading to ovalisation of the subframe ...
You need to get it somewhere where you can remove the toe link and take a proper look at it ...
Cheers,
Robin
P.S. The toe link might break, but hopefully it never brakes

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:58 pm
by tut
Neil
Do you have the uprated toelinks or the originals?
If the former then they will go, even more so with the Honda and 48R's. I have had two lots of originals snap, and recently both lower strengthening brackets on the uprated ones cracked through, and had to be replaced.
And dont forget that I am a smoother and more sympathetic driver than you.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:59 pm
by tut
ps sorry got that the wrong way around, should have read "if the latter."
tut
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:01 pm
by mckeann
theres a tiny bit of play in the OSR wheel. Robin helped me try to trace it last night, but it was dark and starting to rain. Its probably just a little bit of play in the rose joint on the outer edge, but will try to check it propery before thursday
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:14 pm
by Michael
....mid roundabout....

Re: Where do toelinks brake??
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:45 pm
by simon
mckeann wrote:Where is it that toelinks normal brake and/or develop play??
They don't, they do break though

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:47 pm
by mckeann
FFS, robin cracked that joke hours ago

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:58 pm
by simon
Saw the first post, didn't read the rest
