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top engine mount replacement

Post by kerryxeg » Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:02 am

I've not looked at the manual yet, but I'm looking for a rough idea on what is required and how hard a job it is to change the top engine mount. I'm getting better with the spanners, but if its going to be a big job probably easier to give it to someone with more time.

Any past experience would be much appreciated.

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Post by Rich H » Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:09 pm

You can jack up the engine in situ to change the mount its what you need to do to change the cambelt. Ross is about to do this for different reasons, might be worth checking out his thread on progress...
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Post by thinfourth » Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:43 pm

You could come to the not so secret facility

But if you are close to a cambelt change i would live with it till cambelt change time as it has to come off then anyway

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Post by kerryxeg » Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:27 pm

The cambelt was done last year. Anyway doesn't sound to hard. I'll take a more detailed look.

I've installed a car lift in the garage so I can take a look when I'm changing the oil and sorting the brakes, oh and fixing the exhaust and fitting the new thermostat and......... if the list gets any longer it'll be off to ricky's.

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Post by campbell » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:11 pm

I can only comment on what I saw when we did my head work at Robin's recently. This involved partial removal of the top mount to enable threading of the cambelt.

Jack the engine under the sump, with a wee block on the jack for reliable load spread on the metal. Slacken the two mega-bolts (!) on the mount ... and then it all goes blank cos we didn't need to do much more. HOWEVER I guess if you need to remove the mount completely, you will come up against the issue of engine movement relative to the mount which could make threading the new mount v v v tricky. I don't know if there is enough space to keep one bolt part-slackened in situ through old mount, swivel it partially out the way, then install new mount also with one bolt part-tightened...then pull out other bolt and mount, swivel new one in place, thread and tighten 2nd bolt and complete the first one, et voila job est une carrotte ;-)

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Post by r055 » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:59 pm

RICHARDHUMBLE wrote:You can jack up the engine in situ to change the mount its what you need to do to change the cambelt. Ross is about to do this for different reasons, might be worth checking out his thread on progress...
its done Rich :D ,

was easier than i thought, however if i was ever going to be anywhere near there again, i would always take the 4 bolt bracket off the head and give the threads and the bolts a nice good clean before puting it back together...
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Post by r055 » Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:08 pm

campbell wrote:HOWEVER I guess if you need to remove the mount completely, you will come up against the issue of engine movement relative to the mount which could make threading the new mount v v v tricky. I don't know if there is enough space to keep one bolt part-slackened in situ through old mount, swivel it partially out the way, then install new mount also with one bolt part-tightened...then pull out other bolt and mount, swivel new one in place, thread and tighten 2nd bolt and complete the first one, et voila job est une carrotte ;-)
I think it would be easier to remove the mount completely from the base where it bolts onto the chassis and then make sure you have the thread on the 'MEGA bolts' :) and tighten it up.
Then line up and tighten the 2 nuts and bolts onto the chassis - however this could be tricky if you have fat fingers as there is not much room to hold the nut to get the thread on the bolt.
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Post by Rich H » Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:53 pm

[quote="campbell"]HOWEVER I guess if you need to remove the mount completely, you will come up against the issue of engine movement relative to the mount which could make threading the new mount v v v tricky.

When we changed the head on mine the mount was completely undone for ages as we faffed about. Would have been relatively simple to remove the mount either block side or chassis side (assuming no sheared bolts etc!) Undoing the bottom mount gives loads more movement for the engine.
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Post by campbell » Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:08 pm

Fine words of wisdom. I'll get back to my sponges ;-)
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Post by kerryxeg » Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:05 am

Thanks for the comments, I think that's enough info to convince me that all mounts should be changed at once - its probably time anyway.

I'll stick the car on the lift tonight and take a look.

Thanks Kerry

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Post by Rich H » Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:14 am

Worth fitting gearys lower engine mount too, stops the engine moving as much. It was eating it's way out of my back deck where the VVC inlet fouls it. It was moving by an inch! It doesn't now!
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Post by campbell » Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:55 pm

RICHARDHUMBLE wrote:Worth fitting gearys lower engine mount too, stops the engine moving as much. It was eating it's way out of my back deck where the VVC inlet fouls it. It was moving by an inch! It doesn't now!
the later style placcy engine cover deals with this too...but probably more expensively ;-)
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Post by Rich H » Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:19 pm

I could just order a mount, a cover requres re-spray or luck in finding one the right colour...
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