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Post by BiggestNizzy » Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:06 pm

was thinking about putting a 'decent' air filter in the car as the fram number I got from the factor just isn't sexy enough.

my current thinking is either ITG panel filter or K&N 57i kit.

does anyone have any experience of these filters, or is there something out there better. that doesn't involve more late night trips to cadogen square to sell my body.
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Post by robin » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:06 pm

K&N or ITG Panel filter in standard air box gets my vote.

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Post by steve_weegie » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:36 pm

i looked at putting on an induction kit during my last spate of upgrades but ended up with a k&n panel filter. I recon its better value saving the cash and spending it on head work first... Did put a CRP on though and it makes a nice noise now :)

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Post by BiggestNizzy » Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:38 pm

Will order myself an ITG panel filter I think, sounds cool. K&N is just so boy racer. although I have heard they give a 10hp Boost to 1.2 Corsa's.

Question though about the other end. now the car has passed her MOT :D:D:D I thought to myself why not fit that De-cat pipe you got with the car and spent a day de-rusting, shot blasting and painting.....

2 Days work later, job done. what a nightmare even the rust had rusted :evil: so now she is a little bit louder and a bit farty when the engine is braking, is this normal ?
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Post by campbell » Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:48 pm

BiggestNizzy wrote: now she is a little bit louder and a bit farty when the engine is braking, is this normal ?
Yes, you will also be getting gassed with unburnt Hydrocarbons and carbon monoxide but if you like the smell, then enjoy it...life is too short ;-)

A permanent panel filter makes sense, induction kits are generally just adding a lot of noise with a wee bit of throttle response improvement but they sook so much warm air (unless fully ducted like the standard box) that it can even be a backward step.

I have had a K&N panel filter since Tut handed me down a dusty, never-seen-oil example from his original B&C 140 Elise ;-) I upgraded to a new one courtesy of LotusEcosse and never looked back. Clean and re-oil it with each service. Saves money too.

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Post by Victor Meldrew » Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:01 am

I went the induction kit... but the cheep ones are pathetic, better off with a panel filter as said above.

If you want a decent set up you need to spend serious money considering ducting routes and heat shielding....etc....

not reqired for a std engine unless you plan to do more upgrades like exhaust manifolds/cams/etc
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Post by robin » Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:39 am

Does the engine actually pop and bang while on the overrun, or is it just a bit louder than it used to be?

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Post by Victor Meldrew » Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:23 am

robin wrote:Does the engine actually pop and bang while on the overrun, or is it just a bit louder than it used to be?

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Post by GregR » Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:50 am

robin wrote:Does the engine actually pop and bang while on the overrun, or is it just a bit louder than it used to be?

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when my decat pipe was on, it popped & banged on the overrun... or that could've just been the fractured flexi at the time :lol:
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Post by BiggestNizzy » Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:41 am

It's doing some popping and Banging I could record it and let you hear.
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Post by steve_weegie » Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:04 pm

BiggestNizzy wrote:
Will order myself an ITG panel filter I think, sounds cool. K&N is just so boy racer.
oooooohhhhh, well arnt you the posh one then! It take it your suits aren't made by kappa either :wink:



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Post by robin » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:37 am

Hmm - you may need to adjust/reset/replace your TPS if it's popping and banging at >1,600 RPM on the overrun. The ECU cuts fuelling on closed throttle above 1,6000 RPM then turns it back on at 1,600 to prepare for idling. It allows a complete revolution or two of the engine before starting ignition, so you get a bunch of fuel in the exhaust just at that point and then it will burble a bit when that ignites - the lack of cat may make this louder than it used to be, but it was always happening!

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Post by Brunty » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:38 am

[quote="BiggestNizzy"]K&N is just so boy racer. although I have heard they give a 10hp Boost to 1.2 Corsa's./quote]

LOL!!!

I have a hurricane filter kit which fits perfectly over the air intake vent thing on the side of the car, I consider it to be worthwhile, but the amount of crap it suck up is unbelievable. I'm currently cleaning mine about every 3000 miles.

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Post by Victor Meldrew » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:50 am

robin wrote:Hmm - you may need to adjust/reset/replace your TPS if it's popping and banging at >1,600 RPM on the overrun. The ECU cuts fuelling on closed throttle above 1,6000 RPM then turns it back on at 1,600 to prepare for idling. It allows a complete revolution or two of the engine before starting ignition, so you get a bunch of fuel in the exhaust just at that point and then it will burble a bit when that ignites - the lack of cat may make this louder than it used to be, but it was always happening!

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Post by RDH » Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:00 am

Brunty wrote:
BiggestNizzy wrote:K&N is just so boy racer. although I have heard they give a 10hp Boost to 1.2 Corsa's./quote]

LOL!!!

I have a hurricane filter kit which fits perfectly over the air intake vent thing on the side of the car, I consider it to be worthwhile, but the amount of crap it suck up is unbelievable. I'm currently cleaning mine about every 3000 miles.

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