I agree with the others, an excellent night and amazing weather for KH - roll on Global Warming. Nobody seemed to be doing anything silly including the Fiestas, though it did get quite slithery down the hill from Duffus after the oil spill.
Gordon, you did look quite spectacular in places
colin
Dreadnought 1-June
Glad you had a good one Barrie - I doubt I'll make Mexi' but maybe thereafter.. you're more than welcome for a pax..xtreme wrote: Was a cracking night - really enjoyed myself! Couple of hairy moments - slightly sideways down duffus and at the chicane- was more like
at the time tho!
Really need some new boots but I'll run the old A008s for dry but suspect they're past it and they've got a slight flat spot - not good at 140 or so..
However they will give me some useful time through the turns over the A032s which cooked way to quickly.. 
Preparing for take-off.. systems check..
That would be the oversteer in the faster stuff. It calmed down towards the end once i sorted myself out and i'm sure it made a big difference to my times . (Sunday will tell ehcolin adams wrote:
Gordon, you did look quite spectacular in places
colin
) It can be the most frustrating and tricky car i've ever driven to get a quick lap in (compared to what i've been used to in the Elise) ..... but when everything comes good it is absolutely awesome.Glad everone had a good night
Was a good laugh indeed. Wasn't booked on but turned up for spectating and paxing - turned out they had a place left, weather was aweseom, car was full of petrol, so figured I may as well give it a thrash.
Managed to get it going quite well towards the end (it's a long time since I've driven the S1 on track) - the Neovas are a bit slidy and hard now, especially at the rear (these are some old tyres I got from BobVanMelzen as he didn't want them anymore) so plenty of hairy moments.
I still cannot really get the hang of Duffus. In the old days you would brake for Duffus, then once you were turned in it would be power all the way down the hill (mid-to-right on the track) and hard across the kerb on the left (trying to keep mid-to-left on track) so as to have a nice straight approach to Macintyres braking zone.
It seems now as if the faster way is to muller the kerb at the top, taking more speed into Duffus and then ending up mid-to-left on the track, still power on down the hill, mullering the kerb at the bottom as before but at an angle that takes you off mid-to-right on exit, then brake soon after that and force the car over to the left as best you can for Macintyres.
As I was getting quicker into new-Duffus and down the hill, I found myself lost at Macintyres and had to compromise the line into Duffus in order to stay on the track
No doubt I will adjust to it eventually, but somehow it all feels less elegant than the old layout which had a beautiful flow to it when you got it right.
I should add that I saw plenty of people struggling to get the car across to the left for Macintyres, so I hope it's not just me
Mr Nostalgic.
Managed to get it going quite well towards the end (it's a long time since I've driven the S1 on track) - the Neovas are a bit slidy and hard now, especially at the rear (these are some old tyres I got from BobVanMelzen as he didn't want them anymore) so plenty of hairy moments.
I still cannot really get the hang of Duffus. In the old days you would brake for Duffus, then once you were turned in it would be power all the way down the hill (mid-to-right on the track) and hard across the kerb on the left (trying to keep mid-to-left on track) so as to have a nice straight approach to Macintyres braking zone.
It seems now as if the faster way is to muller the kerb at the top, taking more speed into Duffus and then ending up mid-to-left on the track, still power on down the hill, mullering the kerb at the bottom as before but at an angle that takes you off mid-to-right on exit, then brake soon after that and force the car over to the left as best you can for Macintyres.
As I was getting quicker into new-Duffus and down the hill, I found myself lost at Macintyres and had to compromise the line into Duffus in order to stay on the track
No doubt I will adjust to it eventually, but somehow it all feels less elegant than the old layout which had a beautiful flow to it when you got it right.I should add that I saw plenty of people struggling to get the car across to the left for Macintyres, so I hope it's not just me
Mr Nostalgic.
Me neither! But, this is what the instructor was trying to get Marianne to do saying it was now the fastest way - I also think Gordon was doing something similar on Thursday night (though he was combining it with some deliberate understeer-to-oversteer stuff to flick the car over to the left).Brian J wrote:Not absolutely convinced about your revised line, Robin.
Will report on the lines taken by the racers tomorrow!
It will be interesting to hear what lines they end up taking ...
Cheers,
Robin
Thats my line as well (for the moment anyway) if I get Duffus right and carry a lot of speed down the hill and round the left kink at the bottom the car tends to drift into the middle of the track and I usually find myself all over the place in the braking zone for macintyres trying to get back to the left side.
Didnt help that Knockhill were putting the cones on the kerbs rather than behind them.
Didnt help that Knockhill were putting the cones on the kerbs rather than behind them.
Majority of racers today were indeed monstering the first kerb (the T-Cars with some grass too) and therefore in mid track approaching Macintyres - of course, if you're defending in a race that's where you want to be.
Some were taking more of a traditional line and keeping further left but I concede the faster way is probably the new way! But quite a few came to grief at Macintyres as a rresult........
Some were taking more of a traditional line and keeping further left but I concede the faster way is probably the new way! But quite a few came to grief at Macintyres as a rresult........
MacIntyres
Scotsman Corner - formerly known as MacIntyres - has always had a funny line, even before the new first corner.
Just out of interest the T-cars that weren't using the kerb on the left on entry to MacIntres were the ones who were getting help from some of our instructors.
I've never used the entry kerb myself - no need guys. Its not all about defending either as even by staying in the middle leaves enough room for a pass - my fav passing place!!
To get across to the left you need to scrub off speed so why not just carry the speed and when you brake in a straight line, point the car slightly to the left. At best you should only be midway between the middle of the track and the entry kerb.
Cheers,
Sarah
Just out of interest the T-cars that weren't using the kerb on the left on entry to MacIntres were the ones who were getting help from some of our instructors.
I've never used the entry kerb myself - no need guys. Its not all about defending either as even by staying in the middle leaves enough room for a pass - my fav passing place!!
To get across to the left you need to scrub off speed so why not just carry the speed and when you brake in a straight line, point the car slightly to the left. At best you should only be midway between the middle of the track and the entry kerb.
Cheers,
Sarah