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Re: Hot Marques

Post by Digital » Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:21 pm

Doc883 wrote:Hi Jamie, had already signed up for the Hot Marques Full Day on Sat 20th June and plan to do a few of the evening sessions this year :)
It was my 1st outing in the Elise but I took both my Renaulsport Megane and Clio around KH once each when I had them.
Are you heading up on the 20th June ?
Ah, so you know your way around then :D Not sure about the 20th of June at this stage, but will probably end up booking it - ambition for this year is to do a few more trackdays!
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Steve, great videos, looked like you were having fun when not getting held up by the Elise train... Thought it was a poor show for the black Elise to pull back in front of you after his spin, looked like you were practically stopped on the track. Looked like he headed straight for the pits, so would have made no difference if he'd waited for you to pass :?
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Re: Hot Marques

Post by Steve Gill » Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:56 pm

Thanks Digital - it took me a couple of laps to catch up with the other two after that, and then they went and pulled in - boo hiss! :lol:
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Re: Hot Marques

Post by s29ttc » Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:52 pm

Thanks to Tut and Mark for taking me on some interesting pax laps.

O yes Mark there was a thought of "O F*CK" as you came up to the hairpin at that speed shouting "Sh*t no brakes". Not the kind of thing you really want to hear but top marks for getting the speed down before the litter tray. Either it was great driving or good bloody luck, whatever it was the car was still in one piece with no noticeable damage and we seemed ok.

Hope you get the braided hose replaced soon for one that won't burst :thumbsup
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Re: Hot Marques

Post by mwmackenzie » Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:39 pm

s29ttc wrote:Thanks to Tut and Mark for taking me on some interesting pax laps.

O yes Mark there was a thought of "O F*CK" as you came up to the hairpin at that speed shouting "Sh*t no brakes". Not the kind of thing you really want to hear but top marks for getting the speed down before the litter tray. Either it was great driving or good bloody luck, whatever it was the car was still in one piece with no noticeable damage and we seemed ok.

Hope you get the braided hose replaced soon for one that won't burst :thumbsup
Had a hose made today and going to change it tonight so ready for round 2... hahahahah...Ovviously is was my great skills that saved us and the car :damnfunny not one stone chip on the car either but a few stones fall out of the chassis every time I turn a corner :lol:

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Re: Hot Marques

Post by Shug » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:42 am

mwmackenzie wrote:
s29ttc wrote:Thanks to Tut and Mark for taking me on some interesting pax laps.

O yes Mark there was a thought of "O F*CK" as you came up to the hairpin at that speed shouting "Sh*t no brakes". Not the kind of thing you really want to hear but top marks for getting the speed down before the litter tray. Either it was great driving or good bloody luck, whatever it was the car was still in one piece with no noticeable damage and we seemed ok.

Hope you get the braided hose replaced soon for one that won't burst :thumbsup
Had a hose made today and going to change it tonight so ready for round 2... hahahahah...Ovviously is was my great skills that saved us and the car :damnfunny not one stone chip on the car either but a few stones fall out of the chassis every time I turn a corner :lol:

:cheers
Check it's not rubbing on anything - make sure it's securely tied to the wishbone and doesn't pull. Wrap some old bike inner tube around it to stop the rubbing. :thumbsup

Braided hoses aren't really a fit-and-forget. Kelvin had one let go at the Nurburgring - he subsequently found that it had rubbed the P clip. I check mine as part of my pre-track process now and the P clips are padded out with bike inner tubes to be extra sure - any fraying and they are dangerous.
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Re: Hot Marques

Post by meatball » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:12 pm

Did the stewards/marshals not say anything to the racing elises?

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Re: Hot Marques

Post by Doc883 » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:34 pm

meatball wrote:Did the stewards/marshals not say anything to the racing elises?
You'd have thought so they way they were driving :?
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Re: Hot Marques

Post by Steve Gill » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:06 pm

From my experience the marshalls are very good (depending on your point of view) at letting you get on with things - if you're ragged (like the black elise on the gravel quite a bit) then they might warn you from the pit wall but in the main unless you're being very stupid they will let you get on with it. This means cars racing close together, cars driving mm from others bumpers and cars holding you up are unlikely to be dealt with UNLESS you speak to the marshalls and complain about the cars in question. Then something gets done about it, they're not shy at throwing people off if they're getting complaints from other users.

I personally think the problem is often that people don't want to complain at the time, if more than one person had complained about a car driving a few mm behind them the marshalls would have pulled the offending car and warned them that if they do it again they're going home.

I'm a fan of the marshalls at Knockhill because compared to some tracks down south they're pretty laid back and flexible, but if you need something doing just speak to them and they'll sort it out. :D
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Re: Hot Marques

Post by jason » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:32 pm

Race control/marshall was having a word with them at about 1230 after they'd just come off-track... I was parked in the pits waiting for Jon to go get his wristband before his pax.

No idea what it was about of course. Could have been totally unrelated. Didn't have one of these with me...
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Re: Hot Marques

Post by mwmackenzie » Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:11 am

Shug wrote:
mwmackenzie wrote:
s29ttc wrote:Thanks to Tut and Mark for taking me on some interesting pax laps.

O yes Mark there was a thought of "O F*CK" as you came up to the hairpin at that speed shouting "Sh*t no brakes". Not the kind of thing you really want to hear but top marks for getting the speed down before the litter tray. Either it was great driving or good bloody luck, whatever it was the car was still in one piece with no noticeable damage and we seemed ok.

Hope you get the braided hose replaced soon for one that won't burst :thumbsup
Had a hose made today and going to change it tonight so ready for round 2... hahahahah...Ovviously is was my great skills that saved us and the car :damnfunny not one stone chip on the car either but a few stones fall out of the chassis every time I turn a corner :lol:

:cheers
Check it's not rubbing on anything - make sure it's securely tied to the wishbone and doesn't pull. Wrap some old bike inner tube around it to stop the rubbing. :thumbsup

Braided hoses aren't really a fit-and-forget. Kelvin had one let go at the Nurburgring - he subsequently found that it had rubbed the P clip. I check mine as part of my pre-track process now and the P clips are padded out with bike inner tubes to be extra sure - any fraying and they are dangerous.
Thanks shug, Ali has come up with a solution to the problem. It wasn't by the P clip but about half way between that and the caliper :? I have no idea what it could have rubbed on other than the wheel but there's no marks on the wheel :?: I'll be checking them regular now as that was a tad scary :oops:

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Re: Hot Marques

Post by Shug » Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:46 am

Prolly would have been the wheel mate. It'll chew through the line pretty bloody quickly at road speed - make sure you test them by checking at full lock that nothing touches, also that they are secure in the P clips and won't be pulled through. Well worth taking a serious amount of time over this as I'm sure you're now aware!
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Re: Hot Marques

Post by mwmackenzie » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:46 am

Shug wrote:Prolly would have been the wheel mate. It'll chew through the line pretty bloody quickly at road speed - make sure you test them by checking at full lock that nothing touches, also that they are secure in the P clips and won't be pulled through. Well worth taking a serious amount of time over this as I'm sure you're now aware!
Will do mate,cheers. I'll get it on the ramp today and check and secure everything I can :thumbsup I'm lucky it happened where it did and not at duffus or even worse on the road :blackeye Brakes are pretty important :D
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Re: Hot Marques

Post by VXJON » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:15 am

jasonliddell wrote:. I was parked in the pits waiting for Jon to go get his wristband before his pax.

Sorry about that :oops:

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Re: Hot Marques

Post by jason » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:35 am

VXJON wrote:
jasonliddell wrote:. I was parked in the pits waiting for Jon to go get his wristband before his pax.

Sorry about that :oops:
S'alright :thumbsup Was pleased to help you decide on your next car :lol:

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Re: Hot Marques

Post by Digital » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:09 pm

As promised, a couple of vids from the weekend. Quality isn't the best, but hopefully you should be able to make out what's going on (mostly me driving slowly!).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWSQOf_W ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZnIg3Zk ... re=channel

Some notable incidents:
vid 1:
2:45 - cone in the middle of the track at McIntyres
4:15 - flyby from Brian Laing's black Honda Elise :(

vid 2:
3:25 - cone in the middle of the track at the top of Duffus
5:20 - Mass toasts another set of 48s :thumbsup
6:50 - purple big wing Elise overtakes on the inside at Duffus :?
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