Ingliston Revival/Trackday 11-13th Septermber

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Re: Ingliston Revival/Trackday 11-13th Septermber

Post by Alistair » Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:01 pm

Stu160 wrote:Shame, problem is the grandstand it on top of old arena corner, new section looks odd from the ovehead shot.

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It was very odd - must have been at least 4 apexes if not more!

Great fun all the same - I was only on track on the Sunday and managed 4 or 5 really enjoyable dry laps before the rain came on. The corner just before the straight up to the hairpin made you think in the wet - it is flat out - but if there happened to be some oil on the track several trees and a wall beckoned! The esses were great fun though - especially in the dry.

Hope they got enough numbers to do it again next year - but agree the supercar experience marketing needs to take more of a back seat. However, maybe they needed that to help fund it so will cut some slack on that basis - for the moment :-)

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Re: Ingliston Revival/Trackday 11-13th Septermber

Post by campbell » Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:42 am

Yup, events like these need some heavyweight sponsors...as would a more regular return to usage even as a sprint track etc, so got to be realistic.

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Re: Ingliston Revival/Trackday 11-13th Septermber

Post by Scotty C » Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:24 pm

Stu160 wrote:Shame, problem is the grandstand it on top of old arena corner, new section looks odd from the ovehead shot.

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Re: Ingliston Revival/Trackday 11-13th Septermber

Post by Ferg » Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:33 pm

If they had moved the rather ramshackle grandstand back it would have been such a better result. Using the old track and they would have got a usable grandstand for the track. Odd decision.

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Re: Ingliston Revival/Trackday 11-13th Septermber

Post by Shug » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:11 am

Ferg wrote:If they had moved the rather ramshackle grandstand back it would have been such a better result. Using the old track and they would have got a usable grandstand for the track. Odd decision.
I think they'd have had to move it pretty far back for it to be safe on the exit of that corner, then it wouldn't fulfil it's primary purpose, which is viewing for the agricultural show - that's the field used for the big livestock displays, isn't it? Gotta remember, Ingliston is primarily the Highland showground so everything else that happens there realistically has to mould around its requirements. I'm impressed that new track was laid at all, TBH, given historical resistance to bringing the track back. The new "corner" does look a mess though - was probably done to a budget rather than a spec.
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Post by Dominic » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:22 pm

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Ferg wrote:If they had moved the rather ramshackle grandstand back it would have been such a better result. Using the old track and they would have got a usable grandstand for the track. Odd decision.
I think they'd have had to move it pretty far back for it to be safe on the exit of that corner, then it wouldn't fulfil it's primary purpose, which is viewing for the agricultural show - that's the field used for the big livestock displays, isn't it? Gotta remember, Ingliston is primarily the Highland showground so everything else that happens there realistically has to mould around its requirements. I'm impressed that new track was laid at all, TBH, given historical resistance to bringing the track back. The new "corner" does look a mess though - was probably done to a budget rather than a spec.
Agree with the sentiment of moving the grandstand far back on safety grounds, but there are plenty of other hazards right next to the track for most of it.... buildings, trees etc. I am sure an extra hazard of a "close to track" grandstand would not really increase the risk of the track that much. :lol:
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Re: Ingliston Revival/Trackday 11-13th Septermber

Post by Shug » Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:04 pm

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Ferg wrote:If they had moved the rather ramshackle grandstand back it would have been such a better result. Using the old track and they would have got a usable grandstand for the track. Odd decision.
I think they'd have had to move it pretty far back for it to be safe on the exit of that corner, then it wouldn't fulfil it's primary purpose, which is viewing for the agricultural show - that's the field used for the big livestock displays, isn't it? Gotta remember, Ingliston is primarily the Highland showground so everything else that happens there realistically has to mould around its requirements. I'm impressed that new track was laid at all, TBH, given historical resistance to bringing the track back. The new "corner" does look a mess though - was probably done to a budget rather than a spec.
Agree with the sentiment of moving the grandstand far back on safety grounds, but there are plenty of other hazards right next to the track for most of it.... buildings, trees etc. I am sure an extra hazard of a "close to track" grandstand would not really increase the risk of the track that much. :lol:
Potentially fair point - but if you look at the rest of the track, having a solid grandstand on the exit of what would be a quick corner - parked to create a head-on immovable object exactly where you'd end up if you overcooked it at it's fastest, would be the biggest risk on the track - maybe alongside trees on the outside of another of the corners (that's barriered, by the look of it).

However, far more likely it was suggested and the Highland show refused to have its prime grandstand moved at all, TBH.

The tarmac is down now, so if they can finesse the transition to the old track, it's at least a viable circuit again.
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Post by Ferg » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:23 pm

We're all right of course. :-)

The grandstand was honestly one of the lesser safety issues on the track. The amount of hay bales required was massive and they're not going to do that all the time, so the times it will be operational as a circuit will be limited. Not sure it'll ever be more than a private sprint track, but as a private sprint track it would be lots of fun!

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Re: Ingliston Revival/Trackday 11-13th Septermber

Post by BigD » Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:01 am

Ferg wrote:We're all right of course. :-)

The grandstand was honestly one of the lesser safety issues on the track. The amount of hay bales required was massive and they're not going to do that all the time, so the times it will be operational as a circuit will be limited. Not sure it'll ever be more than a private sprint track, but as a private sprint track it would be lots of fun!
It is. :thumbsup

Done it a few times and it wasn't that expensive to hire for a whole weekend. 8)

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Re: Ingliston Revival/Trackday 11-13th Septermber

Post by Ferg » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:17 pm

Thought the prices had gone up significantly and that was why things like this weren't happening. We should look into it if it's affordable :-)

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Re: Ingliston Revival/Trackday 11-13th Septermber

Post by David » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:28 pm

Not sure it was just the cost to hire. Was it not the amount of public liability insurance they were insisting on that suddenly took a hike.
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Re: Ingliston Revival/Trackday 11-13th Septermber

Post by mac » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:46 pm

The contra running into the hairpin is a massive issue before the track becomes viable, plus a range of street furniture.

I don't think I'd be that keen on running in a competitive sprint either without an awful lot of tyres in place
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Re: Ingliston Revival/Trackday 11-13th Septermber

Post by BigD » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:51 pm

mac wrote:The contra running into the hairpin is a massive issue before the track becomes viable, plus a range of street furniture.

I don't think I'd be that keen on running in a competitive sprint either without an awful lot of tyres in place
It was absolutely fine. Really good and ok there were some things to hit but it was pretty low speed by using the in field roads. You'd have to get it a lot wrong to hit anything.

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Re: Ingliston Revival/Trackday 11-13th Septermber

Post by BigD » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:52 pm

Ferg wrote:Thought the prices had gone up significantly and that was why things like this weren't happening. We should look into it if it's affordable :-)
Shame if that is the case. :(

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Post by Dominic » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:11 pm

mac wrote:The contra running into the hairpin is a massive issue before the track becomes viable, plus a range of street furniture.

I don't think I'd be that keen on running in a competitive sprint either without an awful lot of tyres in place
Considerably more space and less to hit than at Doune or Forrestburn... IMHO
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