not got a lotus yet but dont hate me.haha

Post by **Shug** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:43 pm

deano15482 wrote:cheers shug,
sounds great.

i started looking at elises last year but exige is much more my thing TBH.
wanted one since 2000 and i can till remember the date i first saw one on the road.(geek)
the dc2 is great and theres a great community of owners on itr-dc2.com but they are getting way to common about my way,at least 8 people i know have one.when i got mine there wa only 2 other tegs i knew of local.
idealy i would like an s1 but sometimes i find them daunting,engine rebuilds and the like.
but i'm a racer at heart and want something that knocks my socks off everytime i'm in it.
Dean

Cool - some really like the racecar for the road styling of the S1 Exige (me included)... I couldn't be without the wind in my hair at 140tuts though... Maybe that's where my hair is going!!!

Bear in mind the only (S1) mechanical differences are the grenade tuned engine, bigger rims, different stock dampers and more weight

I have the grenade tuned engine bit....

Post by **Shug** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:47 pm

jke11y wrote: edited to add ; that is a shocking, shocking picture - one day shug i`ll explain what it is people like me do !

'S'ok.... I've (unfortunately) seen German TV late at night......

GregR · Post by **GregR** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:50 pm

I was teetering on the brink of a similar comment, but I love JJ too much

kenny · Post by **kenny** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:52 pm

You're welcome to come for a run in mine as well, might be up at KH tonight if I get the chance.

jj · Post by jj » Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:01 pm

Ah, you boys - all you think about is homosexuality.

Rich H · Post by **Rich H** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:04 pm

Shug wrote:I have the grenade tuned engine installed by a halfwit and a loon....

I'm sure it's as solid as the last one

I reckon with that torque the old PG1 will munch itself before the engine goes boom.

Where is the CR box then?

deano15482 · Post by **deano15482** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:06 pm

kenny wrote:You're welcome to come for a run in mine as well, might be up at KH tonight if I get the chance.

cheers kenny...get yours all sorted then
i was talking to andy at hyndland honda the other day and he said you stayed near by.surprised i've not seen you about as i stay near and drive that way everyday.

shug....grenade tuned...are you refering to the s1 engine(noob)

i called bell and colville the other day to enquire about the s1 exige they had but the guy was pretty unhelpful.
i asked if the exige had had its engine rebuild as i've read that they generally require a "re-freshen"about 25k and this one had near 40k on it.
he said no and the way he said it suggested the car was a disaster waiting to happen so i questioned him a bit more with all the research etc i've done and the guy couldn't wait to get me off the phone

twat!!!
Dean

Rich H · Post by **Rich H** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:19 pm

K series isn't the most robust in the world but can be reasonable. Head Gasket failures are moderatly routine, but not normally terminal from what I have seen (Touch wood) The best thing is due to it's modular nature it is cheap and simple to get hold of an old engine and rob bits from it. Not sure about VHPDs though, much of their internals are high spec.

The tuned engines are by there very nature more likely to suffer due to the higher stresses upon them. VHPD engines are tuned versions of the K putting out 160 or 190 bhp. VHPDs need regular care and servicing every 3k miles IIRC (Could be 6k)

Grenade references are reserved for Shug's previous engine (IIRC Piston lands, piston rings, valve stems, valve guides and stem oil seals?) and unfortunatly AndyG's Yota lump! (TBC bottom end terminal gribblyness)

Post by **simon** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:07 pm

I don't think head gasket problems are as widespread as people make out.
Interestingly, I read somewhere (Autocar maybe) that Lotus are to be doing some work on the K for Nanjing/MG with a view to making is US compliant.

kenny · Post by **kenny** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:31 pm

deano15482 wrote:i was talking to andy at hyndland honda the other day and he said you stayed near by.surprised i've not seen you about as i stay near and drive that way everyday.

I'm in Kelvindale mate.

deano15482 · Post by **deano15482** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:56 am

kenny wrote:
deano15482 wrote:i was talking to andy at hyndland honda the other day and he said you stayed near by.surprised i've not seen you about as i stay near and drive that way everyday.
I'm in Kelvindale mate.

oh right .
i'm not usually up that way much these days.....unless its for a domino's at gt western rd!

Post by **Shug** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:16 am

RICHARDHUMBLE wrote:K series isn't the most robust in the world but can be reasonable. Head Gasket failures are moderatly routine, but not normally terminal from what I have seen (Touch wood) The best thing is due to it's modular nature it is cheap and simple to get hold of an old engine and rob bits from it. Not sure about VHPDs though, much of their internals are high spec.

The tuned engines are by there very nature more likely to suffer due to the higher stresses upon them. VHPD engines are tuned versions of the K putting out 160 or 190 bhp. VHPDs need regular care and servicing every 3k miles IIRC (Could be 6k)

Grenade references are reserved for Shug's previous engine (IIRC Piston lands, piston rings, valve stems, valve guides and stem oil seals?) and unfortunatly AndyG's Yota lump! (TBC bottom end terminal gribblyness)

S1 Exige had the VHPD version of the K series - basically a highly tuned track spec engine - most major components replaced (down to the crank) It's not got the best reputation for reliability, and needs regular rebuilds... (Note, the 160 isn't a VHPD - the only versions of the VHPD sold had 177bhp and 190bhp - the 190 was a conversion to track spec and wasn't type approved for the road, although you can get them through MOTs)

S2 Exige has the same Toyota engine as the 111R. So not as highly strung (but still chucks out 190ish bhp) Shame that the S2 has some lard over the S1 (up to 150kg dependant on spec and who you believe

)

Post by **Shug** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:39 am

simon wrote: Interestingly, I read somewhere (Autocar maybe) that Lotus are to be doing some work on the K for Nanjing/MG with a view to making is US compliant.

Autocar.... or as I call it bullsh*t monthly....

Maybe they are, but it'd take a helluva lot of work and would probably involve strangling the engine even more

Can't see it being any benefit to us - unless someone wants a 90hp 1.8 that puffs vaporised evian out the exhaust...

deano15482 · Post by **deano15482** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:22 pm

cheers shug...you just saved me posting up a message asking about the vhpd engines!!
i still need to research a bit more though.
how much roughly does it cost to re-fresh the engines?
could always stick a k20 or even and f20 in it!!!

Andy G · Post by **Andy G** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:52 pm

jke11y wrote: edited to add ; that is a shocking, shocking picture - one day shug i`ll explain what it is people like me do !

Careful JJ

Thats Shug's bedroom