VVC Short block to std head?

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VVC Short block to std head?

Post by steve_weegie » Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:54 pm

Afternoon all,

After ironsiding / grenading / generally blowing a main journal in the car last night, im on the hunt for a new engine.

Does anybody know of any issues regarding fitting a vvc short block to a std head? Wouldnt have thought so, but just wanted to check. The longer term plan will be to transplant the vvc gubbins across, but that will require an emerald that i dont have yet - hence the purchase of a complete vvc unit rather than a std.

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Re: VVC Short block to std head?

Post by BiggestNizzy » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:23 pm

I thought the blocks where all basically the same just stroked and bored for for anything from the 1.1 to the 1.8.

I await to be called an idiot :P

So what's it going to be 1.9 or 2.0 ?

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Re: VVC Short block to std head?

Post by Shug » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:42 pm

Same block - better specced pistons & liners. It's only the heads that differ.
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Re: VVC Short block to std head?

Post by robin » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:19 pm

Was just going to ask if you still had my valve spring compressor (if I even lent it to you?)!!

The block mated to standard head will be fine.

You'll also be fine to fit the whole VVC engine, BTW.

Pretty sure that the mech will sit at whatever phase you park it at until you open either of the hydraulic valves - it doesn't require positive feedback to keep it in the correct position.

Standard duration is 244 degrees; VVC is 220 degrees at min duration, 295 at max duration. But it has much larger valves, so even at 220 degrees it'll probably still work as well as a standard head with standard cams across most of the rev range.

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Re: VVC Short block to std head?

Post by steve_weegie » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:43 pm

Thanks for the answers guys.

Robin, I do indeed have your spring compressor... And still owe you a head set... Would insert appropriate blush thingamy here, but I'm on my blackberry. Are you at knockhill tomorrow? I can bring it up then, or drop it to you next week.

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Re: VVC Short block to std head?

Post by steve_weegie » Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:42 pm

:damnfunny :thumbsup

None of that honda rubbish here please.... Ak-47 spec engine will be in the vicinity shortly ;)
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Re: VVC Short block to std head?

Post by robin » Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:00 pm

I might well pop up, but don't worry about the stuff - pop it in when you're next in Edinburgh, or maybe I'll pop over when your AK47 arrives ;-)

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Re: VVC Short block to std head?

Post by steve_weegie » Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:17 pm

Cool, i'll be in touch Robin :) You're welcome at chez weegie anytime... Might even swap you a home cooked curry for some AK47 advice 8) :thumbsup
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Re: VVC Short block to std head?

Post by robin » Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:57 am

You posted on another thread that Ali is going to do the engine swap - is that happening at Ali's shop?

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Re: VVC Short block to std head?

Post by steve_weegie » Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:45 pm

That was the plan Robin - i've never done one & the Glasgow south side pavement isn't too accomodating to engine hoists & de-clammed loti :)

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Re: VVC Short block to std head?

Post by Mike Scib » Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:34 pm

steve_weegie wrote:
None of that honda rubbish here please.
Do you mind :mrgreen:

Sorry about your car mate sure it will come back better than ever if you fit a V-tec engine :thumbsup
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(that's why I think Mike will do fine, that and his lack of imagination). :roll: :lol:

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Re: VVC Short block to std head?

Post by steve_weegie » Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:27 pm

Ok... Been looking at a few things and have a quick question. Do all vvc units have the coil packs at the bottom of the engine rather than the bolt on top ones the S2 uses? Is this the difference between EU2 and EU3 engines? Any advice welcomed before i make an expensive mistake! :thumbsup
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Re: VVC Short block to std head?

Post by Baggy » Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:45 am

S1 VVCs have two coil packs under the intake Plenium.

Dunno about S2 VVCs

I know this doesn't answer the question but it's half way there :)
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Re: VVC Short block to std head?

Post by robin » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:54 am

All EU3 engines have plug to coils as far as I am aware.

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