What versions have what bhp?

[ExigeKen]

In Alexandria mate and i don't really need a drive, as i know i'll be up for it.

My dad SHOULD have a drive of one and a good look round both the Exige and Elise. I asked him yesterday what look he prefers and he couldn't give me an answer. lol Says he'll need to look properly, but atm he isn't swayed either way. Trouble i suppose is having to go all the way through to Edinbuger for a shifty round John Murray. I'd have taken hin with me to KH had i thought he was seriously considering actually getting on.....he talks a lot, but generally never actually DOES what he thinks.


Ment to say, it was yourself Ken, that kindly took me a spin round KH on on Sat.

Oh no problem mate I should have been able to work that out with the trade comments

[hiscot]

Thanks for all the help guys.

Considering how little problems arise with the Toyota engine, i don't see much point in getting an Elise without it.

soft camshafts, weak clutches ,ecu problems, and they dont like being buzzed
the k series aint that bad imo look at any trackday video to see what a beating they have to take

[drb5]

In Alexandria mate and i don't really need a drive, as i know i'll be up for it.

My dad SHOULD have a drive of one and a good look round both the Exige and Elise. I asked him yesterday what look he prefers and he couldn't give me an answer. lol Says he'll need to look properly, but atm he isn't swayed either way. Trouble i suppose is having to go all the way through to Edinbuger for a shifty round John Murray. I'd have taken hin with me to KH had i thought he was seriously considering actually getting on.....he talks a lot, but generally never actually DOES what he thinks.


Ment to say, it was yourself Ken, that kindly took me a spin round KH on on Sat.

Oh no problem mate I should have been able to work that out with the trade comments

No worries fella. If your ever up my way, give us a shout though.

I'm sure your right Hiscot, but i doubt i could convince the old boy differently. The amount of Rover's we've picked is silly compared to any other car. Besides, when you look at the prices of the series 1 Exiges, the series 2 isn't that much more expensive for a car that is a good couple of years newer...

Ach, he'd probably still consider one at the end of the day, but it would need to be a good bit cheaper to tempt him.

[Shug]

S1 exige is a bona fide limited edition classic with a barely legal race engine, where the S2 exige is a production S2 coupe. Very different cars. With one, values will only go up.

If you think 160 won't be enough, consider power to weight. He may be used to cars with x hundred horespower, but while the Elise (of any variant) isn't a straight line hero, it's bloody quick because it's light (& the Rover ones are lighter than the Yota ones). The VVC rover engine also has a lot more drivablity than the Toyota VVTLi (I have the Rover, g/f has the Yota) so the difference isn't as great as the numbers would make out... VVTLi runs out of puff before the cam change (although a £300 (!) motorsport remap sorts a lot of that)

Much more to it than numbers

[drb5]

I raise my hands and whole heartedly agree, but the man we're talking about, wouldn't drive my 430/430 2.5 litred classic Impreza, becuase he was scared of it.

He wants something that will thrill him and i suppose i'm the one that has to give him the idea's, otherwise he'll get no-where. He's computer illiterate and doesn't have a clue when it comes to costs for performance cars, or figures other than manufactures brochures.

What did Lotus do to the k-series, compared to the same engine in a standard Rover? Just tuned differently via the ecu?

I could always rip out the stereo and get some mag alloys for it.

[BiggestNizzy]

What did Lotus do to the k-series, compared to the same engine in a standard Rover? Just tuned differently via the ecu?

On std cars bog-all, lifted wholesale from the MGF/Metro

[Shug]

In the S2, its a bit different - Lotus ECU. The VVC benefits more from this IIRC.

[drb5]

Lol they didn't do too shabby with standard stuff did they?

Anyone ever do a poll, to see how many have had issues with HG, with folk who haven't? Be interesting to know the outcome.

[Shug]

Yeah, but all you get is a result with the people who could be arsed responding - not scientific or in any way worthwhile TBH... Plus, doesn't take conditions into account. For example, I had 45K trouble free miles on my first engine, tuned it and the head skim exposed some porosity - HGF within 800 miles.

[drb5]

Ain't that the truth!

Again, it comes down to cost...i could probably be tempted to a k engined car, but it would need to be cheap and standard, with never having had a gasket done before. Last thing my dad wants is to HAVE to get his hands dirty on a car he's spent up to 20k on. I'd never hear the end of it. At least if he satisfies his own mind, he shouldn't come to me to complain.

[BiggestNizzy]

I have skimmed more Vauxhall Heads than Rover Heads, If the engines are built correctly and with care they are fine, I think most of the problems came from rover's penny pinching death throws, bad repairs and people not knowing enough about the engine. The Rover K is still a very advanced engine.

The toyota lumps may not suffer from the same level of HGF's but a nosey through the technical section and you will notice that these cars have their problems too (as does every car on the market) My car has been done twice once badly by a previous owner and once by me and fingers crossed no problems yet.

on the plus side it give you a good excuse to get some head work done at the same time

[drb5]

Lmao at head work.

And so the slippery slope begins once again!


We have a garage down the road who do Rovers mainly, so it may be worth their input. Certainly would open up a lot of possibilities. Surely the series 1's aren't THAT much lighter though?

I HAVE been out in a series 1 and found it great fun, but definately lacking in a straight line.

[jj]

Buy my s1 exige.

Oh, and

[Lazydonkey]

Surely the series 1's aren't THAT much lighter though?

I'd heard all the jokes about an S2 / VX being heavier, but when i was pushing them about the other week you really can tell the difference.

depressingly

[drb5]

Lol. Once rolling, i'm sure 50 kilos doesn't come into it too much though...there's your arguement.

Buy my s1 exige.

Oh, and

Thanks for that.

Certainly looks a good one, though the old boy isn't convinced about the head gasket thing quite yet. That and the price being almost the same, for a car roughly 4 years older.... It's definately NOT a sellers market just now either. We've been trying to sell a white WRX and our old TT for months.