Winner yes but a true Champion? I'll let you decide

When he retires he would have gone down as one of the all time greats, but what will he be remembered for now?

Taking the other driver out deliberately to win the world Championship is one thing, Senna and Prost, but this was just plain stupidity, and even worse, there for all the world to see.

tut

Scottd · Post by **Scottd** » Sun May 28, 2006 1:36 am

OMFG he even managed to stop his car right in front of both the major Ferrari sponsors billboards!

Lawrence wrote:7 1/2 hours it took to see the truth

That is the real scandal here!! Talk about bring the sport into disrepute! If this doesn't warrant further reprimand then what does!?

I guess now Schumacher will be remembered for this more than his 7 championships

GOOD!

Obviously Ferrari wont use it here, but didn't I read that they have final veto over any FIA ruling so could technically over rule this decision?

With both Ferraris at the back of the grid, lets now see how good "Schui" really is!
Is it just me with my old rose tinted glasses.... but don't I remember some ace driversfrom yesteryear (in not the fastest car on track) workin their way thro to the front after being at the back for legit reasons!?

scott

/I so love the boring german faction

robin · Post by **robin** » Sun May 28, 2006 9:14 am

Hmm - do we really believe he put his car there deliberately? In recent months he's made quite a few mistakes as he has to push harder - was it Aus where he pushed too hard, ended up on the narrow strip on the outside of the track and spaded it? I'm no expert and certainly no fan of M Schumacher (though he clearly was the best driver for many years), but when I watched it live I thought he screwed up the previous corner and ended up (comedy) understeering into rascas got onto the marbles at super low speed = no grip at all.

I thought he cares about himself too much to risk a rear-end shunt from a Sato-like driver that 'didn't see' the yellow flag - remember the corner is totally blind in an F1 car (or an elise) so the oncoming drivers will only have the waved yellows to warn them.

BTW, being put on the back of the grid at Monaco is like not starting at all as overtaking even the (relatively speaking) lemons is hard - who remembers the massive trains following Trulli around a year or two back, for example?

Having said that, I think Schumi likes to play games at Monaco during Qualifying to manipulate the grid as much as possible, so who knows! There was that dodgy brake test on Montoya (was it), for example ...

Cheers,
Robin

kenny · Post by **kenny** » Sun May 28, 2006 9:36 am

He has always, when under pressure, resorted to dirty tactics. Damon Hill and Villneuve are classic examples. He is a great driver when he has the best car in the paddock and the whole team including the other driver working for him.

I dont think he will be remembered for this, I do think he will be remembered for making a mockery of the sport with Ferrari's staged 1-2's on the finish line. Pity the FIA hadnt got tough with them then.

mac · Post by **mac** » Sun May 28, 2006 9:44 am

When I watched it live my first thought was that it was intentional. It just seemed a little too handy. What would have been interesting is if there was any radio comunications from the team to him just prior to the incident - did he know that his time was about to be beaten???

The other question is - how much of a disadvantage is being second on the grid? St. Devot is probably one of the faster corners and is quite wide at the apex - so would it matter being first or second?

I was pleased with DC performace - if you look at the laptime from all three sessions he would have been well placed on the grid.

Mac

Gareth · Post by **Gareth** » Sun May 28, 2006 9:45 am

Officials would of looked at all his data on the last lap.
What revs he was running, gear etc.
I'm sure they would of left him on pole if they really thought he had a problem.

mac · Post by **mac** » Sun May 28, 2006 9:49 am

Gareth wrote:Officials would of looked at all his data on the last lap.
What revs he was running, gear etc.
I'm sure they would of left him on pole if they really thought he had a problem.

The F1 website said that he entered the corner at the same speed as he did every other time, braking at the same point. The only difference was that he put to much presure onto the pedal causing the fronts to lock up.

Mac

kenny · Post by **kenny** » Sun May 28, 2006 9:51 pm

Good result for DC, entertaining race with plenty of overtaking (for Monaco) looks like Alonso is going to run away with the title. Mclaren would make it very interesting if only they could sort out their reliability.

Post by **simon** » Sun May 28, 2006 10:20 pm

for DC