Anyone came up against an Impreza P1 ?

CSK_423 · Post by **CSK_423** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:45 am

As above...

Had a play with someone I know a few weeks back slipping on the motorway from around 30-100 I pulled a car length or 2, it pulled level at 110 and really f*cked off after that I got it up to around 125+ and it had pulled about 10 car lengths and was still going !!!!!!!!!

Never got a chance round the twisties but I reckon if your a half decent driver and the road doesn't have many straights on it then the P1 would struggle ???

jj · Post by jj » Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:17 am

I would have thought the P1 would have been a lot faster on the motorway than a 140 S1 (or any lotus really) like more car lengths ahead! P1 is supposed to handle nicely though.

Think it def would have been a different story on the backroads. I followed my bro in his williams2 from Bridge of weir to Brookfield the other day and had to try and keep up, but in a straight line the Exige pumps it!

GregR · Post by **GregR** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:23 am

I came against a P1 on roads near Stirling - wasn't much of a contest - he overtook a van on a blind bend, and there was no way I was going that kamikaze to prove a point!

They do sound great though, and one of my all time fave Scoobs

Post by **Shug** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:39 am

Elises/Exiges are not fast straight line cars (no, not even the 'yotas really) They accellerate hard to the point that drag takes over then they hit a wall, as they are really draggy wee buggers.

In 99.9% of encounters with any car, it will be the more powerful that buggers off in a straight line and the better driver that f**ks off in the twisties. (witness Dom, Astra 1.8 vs Kenny, Exige S2 - Kenny's not in any way slow, but Dom's a champion autotester)

So all this conversation is good for is bar-room willy waving. Quick drivers drive quickly, no car drives itself.... Drag racing - 9 times out of 10 against anything mildly hot, an Elise will lose.

CSK_423 · Post by **CSK_423** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:42 pm

jke11y wrote:I would have thought the P1 would have been a lot faster on the motorway than a 140 S1 (or any lotus really) like more car lengths ahead! P1 is supposed to handle nicely though.

Think it def would have been a different story on the backroads. I followed my bro in his williams2 from Bridge of weir to Brookfield the other day and had to try and keep up, but in a straight line the Exige pumps it!

I like that road, you can fairly test the elise out, only bit I'm really cautios at is just before the bend with the double whites at the kilbarchan turn off, there is sometimes surface water there from running down the hill, the backside has stepped out there a few times.

Post by **simon** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:45 pm

I don't think it will have made much difference on the backroads either. If you're driving fast enough to lose a P1, you're probably going to stick it in a hedge backwards soon IMO.

Post by **Shug** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:03 pm

simon wrote:I don't think it will have made much difference on the backroads either. If you're driving fast enough to lose a P1, you're probably going to stick it in a hedge backwards soon IMO.

Not reading me are ya?

Maybe you'd lose it really easy, maybe not. Driver is the major factor both times.

CSK_423 · Post by **CSK_423** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:03 pm

simon wrote:I don't think it will have made much difference on the backroads either. If you're driving fast enough to lose a P1, you're probably going to stick it in a hedge backwards soon IMO.

Any ideas what the lotto numbers are for wed. night aswell ?

Post by **simon** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:08 pm

Shug wrote:
simon wrote:I don't think it will have made much difference on the backroads either. If you're driving fast enough to lose a P1, you're probably going to stick it in a hedge backwards soon IMO.
Not reading me are ya?

Maybe you'd lose it really easy, maybe not. Driver is the major factor both times.

No, what I meant is that the Impreza is a much easier car to drive at it's limit (probably as I've never driven one to it's limits) . Anyone who has been on track with them knows that and Elise can corner faster but not by an enormous amount. So to lose a scoob on the road, you're going to have to drive to the same limits as you do on track and you'll be having a harder time than the other driver.

Stephen · Post by **Stephen** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:09 pm

Not a good Idea to put speeds in print!

Post by **simon** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:10 pm

And of course the driver is a major factor and that's why comparisons like these are a little pointless.

CSK_423 · Post by **CSK_423** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:15 pm

Stephen wrote:Not a good Idea to put speeds in print!

Should have stated thats Km/h

Post by **Shug** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:45 pm

no no no, of course it's the universal SE unit. Tuts.

125+ tuts. Perfectly legal....

CSK_423 · Post by **CSK_423** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:20 pm

lol

tut · Post by **tut** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:41 pm

With equal drivers, you need a light, 180hp plus Elise to stay with a P1 on the type of roads that we use, ie tt, TDE, and the same on tracks such as KH, Cadwell, Oulton.

I have spent many miles on both road and track with Jools, Paul Marshall, Neil Scott, Cammie Leask, Rob Doyle, Colin Tinto(22B), all with P1's, or even more hp, similar driver ability, and speeds upto off the clock.

In the early days of ownership when I had far more ambition than abiliity, I was lucky to stay alive, but boy was it fun. I was the only Elise on TDE '99 and '00, then Iain Thomas joined us in '01.

They were great annual weekends organised by JohnS, but like all such events, they could not continue for ever.

tut