Jodie Marsh, better or worse? (NLC)

[BigD]

Actually Don, I could see you giving her a good seeing to.



tut

My standards are not that high!!

[rossybee]

(Thank F*ck for thread drift. the pics that Creosote'd monster was just too much)

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Enjoy

Oh how could I have missed Lucy, recently had the fortune of her and a friend sitting next to me in a cafe on London's south bank for breakfast... She is absolutely stunning in the flesh

[gordon]

Had to post to kill all the utter sh*t here.

I've not competed, (any never intend to) but in the past have trained in a bodybuilding style (along with powerlifting and crossfit). TBH unless anyone has tried that you have no idea the mindeset and huge drive it takes to get into that kind of condition. I'm talking serious dicipline and 100% focus in the gym, a zone where very few people can get to. I've done an 8 week contest prep, (most of the preps are around 16weeks). I'm talking 5am fasted cardio, then a full day at work, then an hour in the gym with another 30min to an hour cardio after it, then make all the meals in advance for the next day, bed, then repeat. No cheating on diet, nothing, not even 1x sweet.

Jody Marsh is natural, no hormones. She competed in a tested federation and was drug tested and polygraphed. She looks that way becuse of the contest depletion. If you saw her the day after tbh most of you would be all over her,unless you like fat birds. She would look like a fit athletic slim girl.

She wouldn't do a low fat diet of any sort. She would deplete on carbs. Fat would be used as fuel so is still in the diet along with her protein baseline. She has to have that tan as it is a requirement for the comp as it shows the muscle seperation under the strong lighting to the judges.

As for health. In the final week of her prep and more so into the final 3 days then it's prob not super healthy. But up until that point she is in better health than 99% of the population. Low bodyfat, low resting heart rate, fit, strong, flexable, pretty much how everyone would want to be.

Fair enough, you might not like her face. But nobody should be slating her physique when i'd put good money on the fact no one on this thread is under 20% bodyfat.
Naturally for a healthy male they can add 6-8lbs of LEAN tissue a year, that everything being as good as it gets for that time. Lean tissue is a huge difference to just "weight". We all know the "gym mate". The guy who looks like a water ballon and bums about how much he can lift. Fact is there is no usefull purpose in being over 10% bodyfat. 10% is about the same as the guys on the cover of Mens Health mag. Most of you will know how hard it s to loose a bit of weight..........,an then it all goes back on again. That is where the knwledge comes in so you actually drop fat and not just water and glycogen.

It takes 2000cals to burn 1lb of true body fat. So she would have to be in a 500cal defecit every day for a week to lose less than 2lbs of fat. Now roll that kind of disipline for 6 -7 weeks to loose a real true stone. Combine that with still maintaining the lifts in the gym to maintain the tissue he has, and you will begin to see how much of a monumental battle it is to acheive what she has..................and she wasnt that fat to start with.

I get this negativatey all the time. Comments from fat fvcks who feel its ok to randomly comment on my physique but somehow it'd be tabo if i just striked up a convo about how fat they are. Went out last night and for most of the nigh had to defend myself about being vascular, whats the point blah blah, but it's funny how after a few pints the same guys then think i'm gonna give then diet advice and help them "tone up" whatever the hell thats supposed to mean.


Live and let live. Most of the time people who throw out negativaty do so becuse they are deeply unhapy in their own sh*t little existances.

[Rag_It]

Jeez Gordon, some post!

Some very interesting points to take into considersation, and i'll make my feelings very clear that I am in no doubt that it takes an immense amount of dedication to get your body to that level, I'd kill to have <20% body fat, but whilst I like to stay healthy through regular exercise on a weekly basis, sadly I enjoy eating what I want (relatively speaking, I try and stay away from obvious junk food, and sugary drinks) however with my job I find myself out with clients a lot and eating and drinking is a big part of that. Not really an excuse as I could probably just drink soft drinks and it is easy enough to chose a fish or salad/veg option. I always try and focus on a protein based dish, but ultimately there will always be something accompanying it that I shouldn't be eating whether it an accompanying sauce, bread, carbs etc...

Booze is a killer with the unhealthy eating it brings into the equation, either that evening or the morning after, but again it is all about will power and I think that is the one thing I am working on right now, and it is getting a lot better. Most of my 20's were spent eating and drinking whatever I want, but over the last two years I have started really changing how I think, so whilst it is probably too little too late as my metabolism is slowing right down, I hope not to turn into the 'fat f vck' you describe although I am sure it will always be a close call and marginal to say the least!

Dave

[meatball]

That's some burst!

As for Jodie Marsh, didn't like her before, don't like her now. She looked better before though.

IMHO, having friends that do rugby, American football and powerlifting as well as body building, I understand the dedication required for bodybuilding but don't really see the point...it just looks like vanity to me. No offence Gordon.

Used Virgin Active a few years back but binned it due to the regular roid rage from the guys there...

Anyhoo....I'm away back to my sad life, plonking my fat ass on my couch! Lol

[gordon]

All fair points guys. Not been on here for a long while, but those who know me know i kinda post how i talk so it always comes across as angry when put into written word when when i'm not.

Nothing was an attack or aimedat anyone, all just general points.

I totally agree on the bodybuilding vanity...... thats why i'm not a bodybuilder. But i do definatley feel it is beneficial for anoyone to do a mild bb style contest prep once a year to clear all the excess off before it goes too far. There are bodybuilder out there who are cliche'd idiots, all pumped out flared lats and giving it "the walk"......but there are other guys who can dead 300kg raw, and still hit a 50inch box jump

Roid rage is a myth imo. If these guys are indeed taking anabolics then you can be sure they were agressive fools before it too but now have an excuse.

I'm no Jody marsh fan. She has poor legs and no back and still has a good bit of fat to come off, but i respect her for doing it.

It has irked me a bit seeing her on the tv though. She's given herself a platform to hand out some good info from and she's made an arse of it. Sitting in interviews saying she trains for 8hours a day, doing an hour of abs every day etc. The public are pricking their ears up too see what it takes and she's making it look massively complicated and switching them off and giving them yet more excuses not to do it. Where instead she could put across some solid diet advice about macros and basic lifestyle changes so if the public pick it up and run with it they would have big changes.

[Rag_It]

"she still has a good bit of fat to come off"

WTF...Where from?!

I'll exit this conversation and get tucked into my meaty pasta and large glass of Malbec, whilst contemplating my 45 minute run tomorrow, which I will feel good about, before tucking into a tuna nicoise salad tomorrow afterwards. (naturally it will have some unhealthy salad dressing on it!)

Dave

[meatball]

They talked openly about what they took....
Confirmed roid rage.

Also know a boy that took them...he said he noticed a big change too. I think its more than a myth.

[j2 lot]

Might have taken lots of work and commitment to get to where she now is but however commendable that might be she looks fcuking horrendous. Saw her on tv last night and can't help thinking she looks like Joan Rivers - which isn't a good thing.
She is so thin faced that it looks like her teeth are on loan from a horse


Each to their own but in answer to the original question - WORSE - very very worse

[rossybee]

Alright Gordon - long time no hear

We need your posting style more often here - true, personal opinions

[Gourlay83]

Might have taken lots of work and commitment to get to where she now is but however commendable that might be she looks fcuking horrendous. Saw her on tv last night and can't help thinking she looks like Joan Rivers - which isn't a good thing.
She is so thin faced that it looks like her teeth are on loan from a horse


Each to their own but in answer to the original question - WORSE - very very worse

Alan (doesn't know if he even has lats ?)

[rossybee]

And to further back up Gordon's comments, take a look at her topless pic in today's Sun - actually "do-able" in non-roids/tats on show form

[Tommy Twist]

Cat Cubie

Had never heard of her before you posted that, but have since had the pleasure of absorbing several of her fine performances – certainly takes the edge off a grim Scottish autumn weather forecast! IMHO the pic you posted doesn't really do her justice (JMO, etc, etc)

[rossybee]

She is, indeed, a honey

[Tommy Twist]

She is, indeed, a honey

BANG tidy!