Petrol Prices

[Gareth]

Never a better time to buy a V8!

[tut]

London is World's 3rd most expensive.

tut

Top Ten Cheapest - World Petrol Prices

UK consistently ranks in the top three most expensive.

The Facts

Caracas, Venezuela

2p per litre (average) — Is Hugo Chavez proving a point to the Western world?

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

8p per litre (average) — 20% of the world's oil reserves: they'll remain one of the cheapest till the end

Tripoli, Libya

9p per litre — 41 billion barrels of oil per yer make Libya 9th in the oil-producing world league

Ashgabat, Turkmenistan

12p per litre (average) — Car drivers are entitle to 120 litres free per month, so maybe the price isn't important

Manama, Bahrain

13p per litre (average) — 60% of the government's revenue comes from oil production

Kuwait City, Kuwait

14p per litre (average) — The government-subsidised petrol and public transport shows consideration for the community

Doha, Qatar

15p per litre (average) — Citizens have the 2nd highest incomes and the 7th lowest petrol in the world

Cairo, Egypt

19p per litre (average) — The future of their price per litre is uncertain in an unstable country

Muscat, Oman

20p per litre (average) — 600,000 barrels produced every day, so the government gives its citizens a break

Algiers, Algeria

20p per litre (average) — 60% of the country's income comes from their oil production

Oslo, Norway - Most expensive

£1.64 per litre (average) — Road use tax £1.64 per litre + CO2 tax £0.10 per litre

London, UK - 3rd most expensive

£1.35 per litre (average) — Duty ££0.59 per litre + VAT = 20%

[rossybee]

Its topics like this, and the future of motoring that lies ahead that makes me hanker after a V12, just to like, get it out of the way, before its just totally unaffordable.

..and its not already

I have reached the stage where after all the other boxes have been ticked I check the mpg of prospective future purchases and invariably the big 'X' assigns it to the lottery win list

Depends how many miles you do my commute has gone from 30 miles a day to 6. My fear now the engine not getting up to high enough temp in the morning.

My current motor is pretty good for mpg, but I dont find that it makes it any more exciting.

Take the long route then, get that flat 6 singing

[campbell]

£121 today to fill up the X5 with Diesel .............

Paul you're meant to put the nozzle in the filler neck not in through the driver's window

[campbell]

Its topics like this, and the future of motoring that lies ahead that makes me hanker after a V12, just to like, get it out of the way, before its just totally unaffordable.

..and its not already

I have reached the stage where after all the other boxes have been ticked I check the mpg of prospective future purchases and invariably the big 'X' assigns it to the lottery win list

But just remember, annual depreciation on many a car can outweigh its relative fuel inefficiency

Do ALL the sums, just to be sure. You might find you can justify something you otherwise thought was in lottery territory

[campbell]

Wonder if we became independent what would happen to petrol prices? If anything...

There wouldn't be any petrol!

[Alistair]

On our euro tour a year and a half ago we stopped for fuel in Luxembourg on the way home - filled the tank for circa £30.00 - here it takes £58.00.

There seems to be an awfully large premium on super unleaded also - sometimes as much as 13p per litre - not sure how that's justified?

Alistair

[Edin430]

Depends what type of car you have as i'm pretty sure i've read that the majority of ECU's learn the new RON pretty quickly and you as such you lose any benefit.

Now what is interesting is whether or not Supermarket fuel is better/worse than Shell/BP.

[mikeyb13]

Depends on the ecu type and what it does with the extra available horse power.
Well known within Honda circles, where they reset the standard ecu then run it hard on a particular super petrol that you get power gains.
Where as the Jap Subaru ecu doesnt learn and always thinks your running Jap fuel and wont adjust. So they just run lean.
When Andy Forrest mapped my Subaru he asked what stations I had locally and mapped it for optimax. He told me all other suppliers make their Super petrols using adatives and that only Shell make it "properly". I only use Shell unless its an emergency

[campbell]

Now what is interesting is whether or not Supermarket fuel is better/worse than Shell/BP.

McKean will confirm but I believe all comes from same refineries as "the big boys" and therefore any differences are down to choices of miniscule % additives.

Indeed there is a logic that says use supermarket fuel because the turnover in their tanks is higher than "quieter" fuel stations hence reducing risk of contaminants etc.

We just find the cheapest, or spend our Tesco 10p fuel vouchers, TBH!

[Mike Scib]

Would it be possible to get less miles from supermarket fuel than BP fuel?? We have tried using supermarket fuel twice now with the same results.

[Dominic]

I have been told that supermarket diesel has a much higher bio-diesel content. I know of a fleet operator that changed from supermarket fuel to bp/shell, and saw an improvement of MPG across the fleet. Also, the bio-diesel is not so kind to your engine etc,.. not on all cars anyway. The mechanic I use has advised me to stay away from supermarkets for diesel and petrol.

[scottishselise]

Did he give a reason as to why you should not use them for petrol?

[j2 lot]

5p per litre off Shell V-power on 14th Feb.
http://www.scottishelises.com/phpbb/vie ... =2&t=32853

[campbell]

It's all f*cking voodoo I guess.



In our experience. The Skoda does 51mpg to work. Tank 43mpg. Bike racks fitted, deduct 2-5mpg according to windspeed.

Bikes on roof of Skoda, it returns 37-40mpg.

MINI returns about 35mpg no matter what we do!

Elise struts around with 40mpg mostly, bit higher on longer runs, bit less if KH is involved.

They get whatever fuel is cheapest in our locale, end of.

Point about biodiesel is noted, Dom...Skoda manual says avoid but assumed light dilutions were not going to cause a big prob.