This missing plane..

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Another rumour circulating tonight is that the captain's wife had left him the day before he took off..............

[sendmyusername]

2) pilot tries to get to easiest landing strip (the one he initially heads for

Decompression would not affect the radios, tut

it depends what caused the decompression surely (don't call me shirely)
if it was an explosive decompression, power failure on radio systems by damage, also the transponders.. plane goes down to lower height. flys on as they miss the airstrip, try and turn around and go back, stress of turning rips wings off due to damage?
if his wife left him, why didn't he just crash it into the sea and forget about it, why the running off hiding with the plane ?
the range also allows it about a quarter of the way into australia..
seems unlikely it was an accident and further bad luck that caused it, but unless it's found, very few will ever know what really happened to the plane.

[pete]

So they've lost the radios (plural) and they are out of range of mobile masts and their sat comma are down but they can still fly the plane. I'm not saying it couldn't happen just that it is unlikely.

[tut]

I am 90% convinced that there was a pre-arranged plan.

tut

[graeme]

I'm 90% convinced there wasn't. A few assumptions made and our outcomes are opposed. Shows just how little real information we're dealing with. There's nothing to keep hypotheses even in the same ballpark.

[j2 lot]

I want it to be a pre arranged plan so there is a sliver of hope that the passengers are held against their will rather than killed in a crash. Reality is that they will probably all have perished one way or another by now.
The mystery surrounding the whole thing seems unbelievable in this day and age and I'm 90% convinced that more is known about the circumstances of it than we are ever likely to know

[tut]

That is because the whole situation is being conducted by what amounts to a Third World Nation in these circumstances.

They fcuked up from the start because they were more interested in trying to look in control than using information that had been given to them almost immediately that the aircraft had not gone down in the flight path search are, but elsewhere. However they can not admit that they have got it wrong/not acted on it, but continue for days just wasting time and resources. It may be stereotyping to say that they have a different mentality when dealing with a situation like this, but they sat for days on information given to them by Countries that do have satellite tracking abilities, compared to their own meagre intelligence gathering.

A good example of their attitude was shown to the World on TV in their treatment of the two female relations who held up placards asking for more information.

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[robin]

My personal opinion is that holding a vote is in very poor taste. Speculating about it is not helping and until we know, we won't know. It's what Rumsfeld would call a known unknown.

Agreed that the Malaysian government's handling of it is either incompetent, arrogant or both.

Cheers,
Robin

[Gareth]

Relax Robin. We're only debating and for once...there's been no fall outs.

[tut]

If they even find the crash site where they are looking, the water depth is 13,000ft.

It is possible to recover the fuselage from that depth, but it has never been done before and would entail time and massive cost.

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[tut]

I was based in Singapore and Malaysia for seven years in the 60's with the Royal Marines, so had to work alongside their Forces.

The same in Oman in the 70's when we were sent Army Regiments and an Air Force Squadron of helicopters from Iran to help us out in the war. What a bloody farce. They were up at 0600 in the morning lifting weights and wrestling, and they made us look puny, but as much as we tried to help them and show what we were actually doing, their mind set and training made it impossible. We would fly out with them one to one on an Operation, but they would swan along at 2,000ft with no idea that they were sitting targets for the Adoo, so we gave up and let them plan their own Operation. I listened into the briefing as I was the Liaison Officer, and I just wish that I had a recording of it.

They took off at first light and had two helicopters shot down by 0800, so they turned around abandoning their own troops on the ground and RTB. The next week they packed up all their kit and buggered off back to Iran. In the meantime on the ground they went out with one of our Troop sections on the Jebel, were ambushed by an Adoo patrol, so legged it and left a good friend who was the OC and most of his men to be wiped out.

Apologies that this seems to have gone off on a sideways rant, but you have to have lived with them to understand the bravado that substitutes for any sort of actual fighting ability or loyalty.

tut

[Claws]

That makes loads of sense Tut. There have been several crashes of far eastern aircraft where the captain's training/bravado/hierarchy has been a major factor. Was the captain an ex air force man?


If his wife had just left him, why would he crash his plane on purpose, surely it would be party time

[robin]

Relax Robin. We're only debating and for once...there's been no fall outs.

Having a vote is in poor taste. For a moment imagine your daughter is missing and I put up a vote on what happened to her.

Cheers,
Robin

[craigs135s]

We were looking forward to flying Malasyian when we go to KL in June... Now we are not so sure!

[tut]

Zaharie was born in 1961 and joined MA in 1981, so he would not have been ex Forces.

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