S2 K Series Head Gasket Has Gone

KingK_series · Post by **KingK_series** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:05 pm

CubanGav wrote:It would be fun chasing you though Tut.

no sc hondas are history........RIP

KingK_series · Post by **KingK_series** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:06 pm

CubanGav wrote:I have too ask..... How much for a D? I understand if its not something you want to give away.

JD Motor Engineers in Inch up here.

and what do they do? just fit or build too?

CubanGav · Post by **CubanGav** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:59 pm

KingK_series wrote:
CubanGav wrote:I have too ask..... How much for a D? I understand if its not something you want to give away.

JD Motor Engineers in Inch up here.

and what do they do? just fit or build too?

No idea.

www.jdmotorengineers.com

The come recommended and they are very good to deal with. I've had poor experiences with other Aberdeen garages but wouldn't hesitate going back to these guys.

smee · Post by **smee** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:47 pm

J D have always been good to me, down to earth decent guys. Petrol heads and they hill climb. Skimming and decking is contracted out to an engineering company in Blackburn.

KingK_series · Post by **KingK_series** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:02 pm

smee wrote:J D have always been good to me, down to earth decent guys. Petrol heads and they hill climb. Skimming and decking is contracted out to an engineering company in Blackburn.

Doesn't matter who does it, skimming is a bad idea.

Post by **campbell** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:44 pm

Why is it so popular? Does it apply to certain other types of head? My Mk1 XR2 had its head skimmed after some minor catastrophe (don't think it was HGF though) and it went better, and longer, after the work was done...

andyc · Post by **andyc** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:08 pm

I had my headgasket done up near Huntly....Tut knows the chap but I can't recall his name. I will try and dig out his bill and what he did. My head was NOT skimmed but I caught my failure early

I am sure it was less than the £800 but that would not be far from correct amount give or take!

tut · Post by **tut** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:12 am

Ricky Gauld, old friend and one of the old school.

01466 780190

tut

tut · Post by **tut** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:19 am

KingK_series wrote:
CubanGav wrote:It would be fun chasing you though Tut.

no sc hondas are history........RIP

Quite correct there Simon, my two have a history of over 300,000 miles and well over a hundred track days, with the engine and gearboxes never being touched.

tut

KingK_series · Post by **KingK_series** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:21 am

tut wrote:
KingK_series wrote:
CubanGav wrote:It would be fun chasing you though Tut.

no sc hondas are history........RIP
Quite correct there Simon, my two have a history of over 300,000 miles and well over a hundred track days, with the engine and gearboxes never being touched.

tut

and you think that you cannot have that with the Rover engine?

- because you can, and without carrying the extra weight of a whole passenger that you are burdened with in a honda - which goes against the very ethos of Colin Chapman and everything Lotus stands for -
the Rover thread demonstrates in a clear way what you need to avoid to enjoy a reliable Rover...... the butchery of some of the tuner names.

robin · Post by **robin** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:48 am

Simon, it's horses for courses. Whilst it may be possible to enjoy 300,000 miles of trouble free K-series motoring at 200+ BHP output levels it was certainly not Tut's experience. Now you can blame that on whoever you like, but from Tut's perspective as a consumer his Honda conversions have represented much better value for money than his investment in K-series tuning. This thread is not the place to discuss that, though, as the OP is trying to get information about the cost of repairing his engine.

Cheers,
Robin

KingK_series · Post by **KingK_series** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:49 am

campbell wrote:
KingK_series wrote:
the solution;-

remove clam
remove head, strip and hardness test DO NOT SKIM UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
If the head is less than 95 brinnel on a recently calibrated modern digital hardness tester [ costing 2 grand which is why most garages/dealers do not have them] it is scrap.
If the head is above 95 brinnel - DO NOT SKIM, reassemble and reuse
Always strip short end, and DO DECK the block plus liner shoulders to straighten and give correct liner standproud of 4 thou
remove and replace plastic dowels with steel ones
remove old thermostat and replace with 82deg PRT.
use new OE longbolts
check and replace radiator for leaking plastic end caps, Proalloy do a good replacement.

This is the best that can be done without altering the water flow through the engine and a properly designed water pump,

these measures are therefore NOT a solution but will manage the problem sufficiently well to enjoy the engine and car.
Ignoring the contradiction from start and end of the quote above , this seems like a rather useful post which demystifies a whole load of K engine voodoo....

From seloc 2006..............

I have tried.............

http://arc.seloc.org/viewthread.php?tid=92689

Peter · Post by **Peter** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:34 am

KingK_series wrote:
Peter wrote:It's an interesting post. My question would be..

If you bought a fully functioning K series Elise, what (if anything) would your recommend as a series of pro-active steps to increase it's longevity?

a/ for min effort, just fit with a 82 DEG PRT

b/ for medium effort , strip, deck, fit and balance to lightweight single piece flywheel.

c/ for bombproofing, strip, deck, deck liner shoulders, flywheel + balance, mod waterways, modded gasket [for waterway mods] competition water pump

d/ for max fun, fit 2L KingK engine, forget "HGF", and go murder sc hondas.!

but c/ requires parts that are not commercially available

Thanks! Useful info.

Unlike Dom!!

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Dominic · Post by **Dominic** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:09 pm

Peter wrote:
Thanks! Useful info.

Unlike Dom!!

tut · Post by **tut** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:38 pm

Simon, you can check my posts, but at no point have I run down the K engine, or said that the Honda is a better engine. I had them in my cars for years before I went Honda. I also tuned them to 190hp, but you have too remember that these are not your engines which I accept are in a different class, we did not have your knowledge, so went the well tried routes, i.e. Dave Andrews heads.

I was offered a very special deal by BLiNK to fit a new JDM engine as it would be the first in Scotland, so as N1 needed a bottom end rebuild due to worn rings, I went that way. I am not saying that engine is better, faster, longer lasting than yours, but it probably is compared to a non yours. Also it has served me in both cars more than I could have hoped for.

Please read my posts carefully to see what MY experiences are as they are nothing to do with with the engineering of the two engines which is your speciality, whereas mine is driving them.

You also asked me a while back to weigh N3, S/C Honda, which I did on Craig Wallace's scales along with a mix of other Elises, and it came out at 760kgs with a full tank. This is a documented and irrefutable figure.

Bottom line is that I am not comparing my Honda engine with your K in any way, just stating what my own experiences have been.

tut

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