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Steering Rack Refurb

Post by ceejam » Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:01 pm

I need to refurb the rack in my S1 Elise, so I'm just about to order the bits from Titan Motorsport.

They have a minimum order value which is greater than the cost of one set of bits, so was going to order at least two sets.

Does anyone have a need for the bits to refurb a rack? Happy to order more than I need to save on postage etc

If no-one on here needs the bits, I'll just order two sets and ebay the other set or post on SELOC.

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Re: Steering Rack Refurb

Post by tut » Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:49 pm

I need to do mine at some stage Jamie, but it is LHD so probably different kits.

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Re: Steering Rack Refurb

Post by woody » Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:00 pm

tut wrote:I need to do mine at some stage Jamie, but it is LHD so probably different kits.

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It's the same parts I'm sure tut, I have the Titan drawing on the pc, can check it later.

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Re: Steering Rack Refurb

Post by ceejam » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:56 am

Pretty sure the bits I'm oredering will be the saqme - the nylon cups that the track rods seat into, plus shims, locking pins and boots.

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Re: Steering Rack Refurb

Post by mckeann » Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:38 pm

i have a spare S1 rack for anybody that wants to minimise time off the road.

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Re: Steering Rack Refurb

Post by Ferg » Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:39 pm

Do they do a kit with the upgraded bronze caps?

My rack is knocking a little and I was wondering whether it was worth getting the stronger parts. Is it an easy DIY job? Up until now I had only been looking at the exchange racks from Titan.

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Re: Steering Rack Refurb

Post by woody » Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:56 pm

The job itself is easy enough, but getting the rack out can be a footer.

The drawing I have is RHD, but there's no reason for the parts replaced during overhaul to differ, I'd be sure thay'll do your rack Tut.

My car was on the original TREs, so I stuck a new pair on at the same time.

Don't think Titan do the bronze cups, it was a third party part IIRC.

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Re: Steering Rack Refurb

Post by Stu160 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:48 pm

i would take a kit, the VX needs done, and the S160 is not great either, how much are they Jamie?

I also have the brass inserts to replace the plastic ones if anyone needs them.


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Re: Steering Rack Refurb

Post by campbell » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:01 pm

Careful fellas, Oracle Iddon advises me that the pre-loading required to set the rack up again properly before re-fitting is not to be under-estimated. I would want to understand this a lot better myself before committing to DIY...Ken Brown Motor Engineers in Glasgow will do the job for £100-£150 if you hand the rack in, I seem to recall.

HOWEVER, all that said, my rack was bad enough to confuse Walshy on the training day in Nov :D so I do have this high on my list of "pre-season maintenance" tasks and so could be interested in a kit as well.

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Re: Steering Rack Refurb

Post by woody » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:27 pm

campbell wrote:Careful fellas, Oracle Iddon advises me that the pre-loading required to set the rack up again properly before re-fitting is not to be under-estimated. I would want to understand this a lot better myself before committing to DIY...Ken Brown Motor Engineers in Glasgow will do the job for £100-£150 if you hand the rack in, I seem to recall.

HOWEVER, all that said, my rack was bad enough to confuse Walshy on the training day in Nov :D so I do have this high on my list of "pre-season maintenance" tasks and so could be interested in a kit as well.

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I borrowed a set of fish weighing scales from shuggles for the task, remember it being fairly straight forward. Unless of course I've fcuk up somewhere.

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Re: Steering Rack Refurb

Post by campbell » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:43 pm

So does yours work since you put it back in then?!

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Re: Steering Rack Refurb

Post by woody » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:10 pm

campbell wrote:So does yours work since you put it back in then?!

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I think the rack does, it's just everything else.... :P

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Re: Steering Rack Refurb

Post by Shug » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:07 am

woody wrote:
campbell wrote:Careful fellas, Oracle Iddon advises me that the pre-loading required to set the rack up again properly before re-fitting is not to be under-estimated. I would want to understand this a lot better myself before committing to DIY...Ken Brown Motor Engineers in Glasgow will do the job for £100-£150 if you hand the rack in, I seem to recall.

HOWEVER, all that said, my rack was bad enough to confuse Walshy on the training day in Nov :D so I do have this high on my list of "pre-season maintenance" tasks and so could be interested in a kit as well.

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I borrowed a set of fish weighing scales from shuggles for the task, remember it being fairly straight forward. Unless of course I've fcuk up somewhere.
Aye - and they are available should anyone want to borrow them. Fairly simple task to set the preload using them.

You simply tighten the end cups to a point that it takes a certain weight of pull on the scales to move the arms through an arc, then lock them off with a cotter pin. Pretty straightforward and even if the scales aren't minutely accurate, the test has a wide enough tolerance that it doesn't matter if it's a gram or two out, IMO.
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Re: Steering Rack Refurb

Post by campbell » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:34 am

Well. You got me thinking.

I never imagined I'd ever write something like this, but...anyone up for a Group Therapy Steering Rack Refurbishment Session some time in the next month or two?

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Re: Steering Rack Refurb

Post by tut » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:42 am

Yep, combined with Stu's brass inserts mod.

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