Vehicle targeting after Crail - Scary Sh*t!

steve_weegie · Post by **steve_weegie** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:27 pm

Elisa wrote:
so i take it im a ned for even goin to crail !!!!

Jury's out... Could you take this ned test and let us know how you got on?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/tv/chewin ... ndex.shtml

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Skyenet · Post by **Skyenet** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:37 pm

Elisa wrote:interrupting the gossip !!!!

so i take it im a ned for even goin to crail !!!!

these "neds" as you put it may well be very happy with their cars. each to their own after all.

shouldnt really b gossipin about somethin u know nothing about.

Got to admit I completley agree.

I have been to a Crail Thrash in the Elise and was the first time I met Stu (a hot hatch driver as well). The vast majority fo the folk there are just people who like cars and talking pish about there cars to other like minded people (bit like Elise Owners then). I had one go at the quarter mile but prefer twisties to a boring bit of straight road so not my cup of tea.

I was also a regular visitor to the Strathycruise which is only minutes from my house. Made a lot of good friends there and they were all very welcoming and complementary of Elises. Like most places you did get a small minority that caused trouble which reflected on the rest of the people that went to the Cruises. Strathcruise also organised Knockhill track days in which there was a wide range of performance cars and the track etiquette was easily as good as any SIDC I have attended.

Nobody here knows the true story of the folk getting chased but even if it was half true it would be scary stuff. Trying to block someone passing does seem like asking for trouble but then brandishing a heavy torch at somebody could also be seen as asking for trouble. I am sure my SAS Survival book says the first steps in Survival are bloody great ones in the opposite direction

In early years education and childcare one of the things we are always teaching children is respect for others and not to judge or stereoptype folk. From my expereinces folk do not make loads of judgements about Elise drivers on other car forums, indeed many admire the Elise so why do so many Elise folk seem to slag off young drivers, many of whom may well be, or at least like to be, Elise drivers when they can afford one. Some of the comments in the slagging off threads sound like the stuff out of the "Grumpy" programmes on tv.

Take some chill pills folks

Post by **pete** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:57 pm

Elisa wrote:interrupting the gossip !!!!

shouldnt really b gossipin about somethin u know nothing about.

This is the internet! 93% of the forums are made up of people gossiping about thing they know nothing about (have you seen Selock?)

so i take it im a ned for even goin to crail !!!!

these "neds" as you put it may well be very happy with their cars. each to their own after all.

Errrm didn't mean to upset anyone, (as it was me who called them neds).

Shoomer asked for a precis of the very loong thread and I thought it would funnier if I used a similar word to describe all the protagonists. I chose ned because I couldn't think of anything else.

Are you a ned if you go to Crail, no. You are a ned if you are a ned.
Are you a ned if you drive a modded hatchback, well of course not, but you have to accept the slightly dodgy image so you can expect to be thoguht of as one. My boss drives a Orange Focus ST (very slowly). He is in his fifties but he still looks like a ned

Personally I have always thought image is quite important so have been careful when choosing my cars to make sure they reflect my Guardian reading, Green voting (well once), wholier than thou, left wing soul. Perhaps if one is concerned about how others see one then one should be careful about selecting a car which reflects the image one would like to protray, like I have done in the past.

Pete

Previous cars:
Vauxhall Chevette. BRG Green. Small oil leak (think Alaska). More tinker spec than ned to be honest.
Opel Ascona 2.0 SR. Lowered, K&N. Quite loud. Used to take it XR3i bating.
Honda CBR600F. Bright yellow, with rider in blue race leathers with Alpinestars written across my back in fetching silver.
Opel Manta GTE (white). Move on. Nothing to see here.
Subaru Impreza WRX PPP. Quite loud.
Sample quote - Wife "No you can't buy it. I'll look like a ned. Bugger me it's quick, you take the Elise today I'm taking that Scooby again."

Amongst others....

Derek · Post by **Derek** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:52 am

pete wrote:Personally I have always thought image is quite important so have been careful when choosing my cars to make sure they reflect my Guardian reading, Green voting (well once), wholier than thou, left wing soul.

Glad I got rid of my S2 if this is the image they present.

Rich H · Post by **Rich H** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:02 am

Before you judge someone walk a mile in their shoes.

At least you will then be a mile away and have their shoes.

bertieduff · Post by **bertieduff** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:36 am

Brunty · Post by **Brunty** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:12 am

I think peoples definition of NED differs somewhat. Years ago I read that it stood for Non Educated Delinquent. So the image of louts smashing up bus stops, running through peoples gardens, throwing stones at cars etc. was formed.

I've learned, as others have, that just because you may be in to hot hatches or vauxhalls, you're still in to cars!

Post by **pete** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:01 pm

Brunty wrote:I think peoples definition of NED differs somewhat. Years ago I read that it stood for Non Educated Delinquent. So the image of louts smashing up bus stops, running through peoples gardens, throwing stones at cars etc. was formed.

I've learned, as others have, that just because you may be in to hot hatches or vauxhalls, you're still in to cars!

I've read that too but that sounds a bit too twee for me, like they tried to make a definition fit the acronym. I suspect it is just a compression of "ne'er do well" (as my granny would have called them).

Pete

gorrie · Post by **gorrie** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:14 pm

FWIW.... long before I ever heard the term 'Ned', I lived in Duddingston, Edin (I grew up there from 7yrs old)

There were a couple of not so pleasant areas next door (Bingham & Niddrie). We (me and my mates) used to call the people from Niddrie 'Nids'. About a year or so later, I heard the term Ned being used to describe them... and a couple of years after that it was a common description for shell suit wearers all around.

I'm not saying that Duddingston was the source of the term or anything... but it does make me wonder.

BTW... money has since been ploughed in to the aforementioned areas and I don't believe they attract the stigma that they once attracted (before anyone from that area comes looking for me)

CSK_423 · Post by **CSK_423** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:14 pm

Scotty C wrote:
pete wrote:Bad neds in 4 cars chased good ned to steal his seats. After numerous close calls and some heroic driving by the good neds, and some dangerous driving by the bad neds, they got away but not before good ned had been attacked by steel pole wielding bad ned a couple of times.
The police were informed and then later all the good neds friends got together and tracked down the miscreants names and photos. Their details were passed to the boys in blue, together with their photographs (think 80s blond highlights) and registration numbers.

I don't know who Bebo is in the story, he may be some sort of superhero who finds folk on the net, I'm not sure.
I read between the lines. good ned thought he would feck off bad ned and not let him passed. Why would you even want to be on the same road as the bad ned never mind hold them up? bad ned gets really fecked off. the seat thing is just made up?

I could be wrong?

This has bounced about many car forums and seems to be the general consensus........including mine.