just vicious (car porn)

[mckeann]

Well put.

I took pics of N1 TUT after the rebuild and re-spray, and she looked lovely, just like a new car, but that was the problem.

It did just not look like the car that had done 150,000 miles, more track days, road runs, competition runs than I can count, was known around the world, and was almost a one off.

I suppose that you can not have everything.

tut

i think it is the same with racecars they normally have a few dings in them and inside you know something is going to be held on with duck tape and most of the switches with have dynmo labels.

Like people really interesting cars have flaws

Or more basically truly great cars have duck tape

thanks paul

[Shug]

Well put.

I took pics of N1 TUT after the rebuild and re-spray, and she looked lovely, just like a new car, but that was the problem.

It did just not look like the car that had done 150,000 miles, more track days, road runs, competition runs than I can count, was known around the world, and was almost a one off.

I suppose that you can not have everything.

tut

i think it is the same with racecars they normally have a few dings in them and inside you know something is going to be held on with duck tape and most of the switches with have dynmo labels.

Like people really interesting cars have flaws

Or more basically truly great cars have duck tape

Thinfourth in "talking sense" shocker!

[Rich H]

When it stops leaking its run out

[Shug]

OTOH, the car that began this thread isn't a silly road car anyway - it's one of the GT racers Lambo made a couple of years back. So it fits my criteria for wish cars.

I honestly don't appreciate the likes of the Murcielago and Veyron and stuff like that. Put them on a track and a real racer would eat them as quick as they eat their tyres and brakes.

Each to their own, but gimme a carbon fibre, slick shod, unsilenced projectile designed to do one thing any day, over a compromised posing pouch.

[pete]

Never understood the supercar worship thing it completely baffles me. I see lots of shiny supercars the first thought that comes to mind is garage jewellery.

Show me one that is flithy with a few battle scars and i think there is a car that is used not polished.

Show me a lambo that looks like it has been in the hands of tut for 5 years and i will be impressed, ones that have had more spent on waxing them then fuelling them and i am left completely cold.

Thank god for that I thought I was the only one. With notable exceptions they are pointless toys for people to own, not drive.

I think it is something to do with some machines seem to live and some don't

Best illustrated by when we went to the cloak and dagger with Richard and we saw the tornados. They were static but they were slightly dirty and we leaking oil and smelt of oil and fuel. You knew they were living breathing machines. At a later date we went to see concord at east fortune but it was clean, shiny and didn't drip oil so it felt like it was just a piece of metal. it was the same as the other planes they had that were not going t fly again.

That is very good, I like that explanation a lot.

I've been on Concorde when it was at Heathrow (that's been on as opposed to flown on) and found it utterly magnificent. I did the walk around with the red hat and the engineers. At East Fortune it left me cold - I put it down to familiarity but I think your explanation may go some way too.

The cars that bring something new to the table, Veyron and particularly for my generation the F1 have soul. Al the others are status symbols and don't really interest me.

N1 TUT and the Shugmobile have more soul than most of the supercars and wear that soul on their scratched bodywork and improvised repairs, soul can't be bought it has to be earned and Lamboghini have not earned anything by selling cars aimed at footballers.

Pete

(You should know that that theory could be destroyed by someone lending me a Lambo for the weekend....)

[Edin430]

Why does it have a table on the back of it??

Like the paint job though..

[thinfourth]

Well put.

I took pics of N1 TUT after the rebuild and re-spray, and she looked lovely, just like a new car, but that was the problem.

It did just not look like the car that had done 150,000 miles, more track days, road runs, competition runs than I can count, was known around the world, and was almost a one off.

I suppose that you can not have everything.

tut

i think it is the same with racecars they normally have a few dings in them and inside you know something is going to be held on with duck tape and most of the switches with have dynmo labels.

Like people really interesting cars have flaws

Or more basically truly great cars have duck tape

thanks paul

Ah but flaws and duck tape don't make the man/car

[jason]

Best illustrated by when we went to the cloak and dagger with Richard and we saw the tornados. They were static but they were slightly dirty and we leaking oil and smelt of oil and fuel. You knew they were living breathing machines. At a later date we went to see concord at east fortune but it was clean, shiny and didn't drip oil so it felt like it was just a piece of metal. it was the same as the other planes they had that were not going t fly again.

Well put... The Tornado hangar at Lossiemouth left the same impression - working machines with lots of drip trays, that are being used. Concorde at East Fortune (whilst it remains a machine of utter beauty) fills you with sadness - knowing it's caged, can't fly, will never fly again... more so having witnessed it arrive across a field in April '04 wingless A snapshot in time of when it's restoration was completed.

....just like a supercar added to a display collection being a snapshot of when it was built and last polished.

[BiggestNizzy]

utter bollocks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNTvIUX0trQ

Hi tec my ass they are using a manual CMM witha touch probe, a laser scanning probe would have been better on a cnc machine!

I have alot more respect for those working on budgets and within huge constraints. I know where everyone is coming from working things are alot more fasinating than "models" maybe it's cause I apreciate the engineering that has gone into something to build it/keep it running. Concord was an amazing feat of engineering that I doubt we could replicate even now even if we wanted to now I'm afraid it is just a model in a hanger

[Sanjøy]

carbon fibre, slick projectile designed to do me any day, over a compromised posing pouch.

[Gareth]

http://www.stuttgart9.co.uk/upload/show ... php?t=5087

[timmsky]

....a compromised posing pouch.

The Veyron??? Hardly compromised my learned friend.. not at 5 mill a pop to build

I know what you mean though

[j2 lot]

Another cracking avatar Timmsky

[Sanjøy]

....a compromised posing pouch.

The Veyron??? Hardly compromised my learned friend.. not at 5 mill a pop to build

Perhaps he meant there could never be a single model race series.

[timmsky]

Perhaps he meant there could never be a single model race series.

Why would that be a compromise?

I assumed he meant that instead of an out-and-out racer, (stripped and CF'd up) that most supercars are garage jewellery, for blinged football 'stars' and pop idle's (sic), with unecessaries such as air-con and sat-nav - just to please the masses... no?