2009 to be last GB GP?

[Shug]

I've recently just stumbled on that publication - it's a top read!


Mac

Been reading it for years. It's where most of my partly-informed bullsh*t comes from

[tonyg]

Unfortunately with all the new billion dollar tracks that have been recently built in the Middle and Far East, with more to come, the writing is on the wall for Silverstone. It will be ditched to make way for another oil funded newbie. Monaco will be next.

Tradition does not matter anymore, especially with the sawn off poison dwarf, who still has not got enough money despite a personal fortune of £3.5 billion, or enough trophies on his arm, despite an ex model wife with legs longer than his body, that could do us all a favour by giving him an on the job heart attack.

He gives Gargoyles a bad name.

tut

I'm with TUT - someone shoot that jumped up little sh*t Ecclestone.

British GP to be replaced by Indian GP ASAP - probably the only reason that dead average idiot Narain Karthikeyan spent precisely one season driving slowly at the back of a GP track - Bernie wants to make a heap of cash selling TV rights to that area and even more when the GP there starts!

[Shug]

Unfortunately with all the new billion dollar tracks that have been recently built in the Middle and Far East, with more to come, the writing is on the wall for Silverstone. It will be ditched to make way for another oil funded newbie. Monaco will be next.

Tradition does not matter anymore, especially with the sawn off poison dwarf, who still has not got enough money despite a personal fortune of £3.5 billion, or enough trophies on his arm, despite an ex model wife with legs longer than his body, that could do us all a favour by giving him an on the job heart attack.

He gives Gargoyles a bad name.

tut

I'm with TUT - someone shoot that jumped up little sh*t Ecclestone.

British GP to be replaced by Indian GP ASAP - probably the only reason that dead average idiot Narain Karthikeyan spent precisely one season driving slowly at the back of a GP track - Bernie wants to make a heap of cash selling TV rights to that area and even more when the GP there starts!

Karthikeyan was blistering in Brit F3 - bloody fast. Very unlucky that he got slotted in a donkey of a car... Kinda stunted his career, like going into F1 too soon has done to a lot of people. Make no bones, he's quick.

[j2 lot]

I suspect the Indian GP is more as a result of a willingness of someone (Indian or India based) to throw more money Bernies way , and of course there is now a Force India Team too.

[Mr Momo]

poltics and economics, but why is Montreal still on the Calendar in that case - it's a sh*t circuit in sh*t condition also

[tut]

The Montreal surface was a joke.

They could not move a foot off line in places without running on marbles.

tut

[Shug]

Surface was woeful but I think it's a bloody excellent track! One of the few left with some character and history - not to mention good passing and a few proper 'balls of steel' corners when it's in good nick. I'd take it over all your Zuhais or Malaysias, any day of the week....

[ABZ-Elise]

I use to be a big F1 fan a few years ago, I've almost completely lost interest in it now. Nowdays I just watch the news to see who won. After Sunday at knockhill I'm a huge fan of Formula Ford. I thought it was great to watch people of verious talent and no huge wings on there cars all try and pile into the hairpin at the same time, plus there was loads of overtaking.

Kev.

[j2 lot]

Surface was woeful but I think it's a bloody excellent track! One of the few left with some character and history - not to mention good passing and a few proper 'balls of steel' corners when it's in good nick. I'd take it over all your Zuhais or Malaysias, any day of the week....

Think my plan will be to go to Canadain GP next year, was thinking of it for last weekend but then the Speedfair popped up.

[ryallm]

I'm looking forward to watching F1 next season when they go back to mechanical grip rather than all aero.


Mac

Me too - it will be the first time in years F1 cars are anything like the way they should be. Grooved tyres and over reliance on downforce has ruined the racing over the last decade. Tyre warmers are banned too next season which should make for some very interesting out laps I would like to see them go back to manual gearshifts and steel brakes too - that would really improve the spectacle.

Mark

[Shug]

I'm looking forward to watching F1 next season when they go back to mechanical grip rather than all aero.


Mac

Me too - it will be the first time in years F1 cars are anything like the way they should be. Grooved tyres and over reliance on downforce has ruined the racing over the last decade. Tyre warmers are banned too next season which should make for some very interesting out laps I would like to see them go back to manual gearshifts and steel brakes too - that would really improve the spectacle.

Mark

How about manual ignition advance control and carbs? Seriously though, not too sure about banning warmers - not exactly gonna reduce costs that one... We've already got F1 cars that are cruder than the average family saloon in the tech department, so it's about getting a balance - currently heading the right way, but I'm wary of them going too far. It's supposed to be the bleeding edge of car development after all (as, clearly, the general public ignores endurance racing, where the real progress is being made )

People have been moaning about reduced overtaking since the 60s, that'll never change. Have you watched a GP from the '80s recently? The only thing that saved most of them being totally processional was much more variable team performances (less professionalism, basically) and a raft of Champions all around at the same time.

That said, I'm all in favour of the move back to slicks - grooves always were a totally rediculous idea. Hopefully the stricter aero rules will make the cars a bit prettier and promote closer drafting (although I won't be holding my breath )

[ABZ-Elise]

Bring back the 1400bhp turbo'd F1 cars!

[Shug]

Bring back the 1400bhp turbo'd F1 cars!

You didn't watch the races then? Phuck me, some of them were boring... 1400bhp in qually, 650 in the race, entirely dependant on how much fuel you had left (refuelling banned and the tanks were limited to cut the power they could use). Had sod-all to do with racing... I remember Monaco one year, where 5 or 6 leading cars ran out on the last lap, not exactly the pinnacle of racing Plus, they were so aero inefficient (bloody great barn-door wings) that the "can't pass because of losing aero grip" whine was even louder from the drivers! Then again, they've been moaning about that since 1968...

That said, in isolation, the cars were incredible - 98T is one of my all-time favourite F1 cars. That's the thing though, the most impressive cars don't always lead to the most impressive racing.

Grass is always greener...

[j2 lot]

I like where the cars are this year - driver skill back on the agenda , still fast and noisy and the overtaking opportunities are increased from last year. I think next year ,all be it a step back from a technology point of view, should make it even more driver focused but with Shug on not going too far back as it is supposed to be a technology testbed /showcase too.

[BiggestNizzy]

I have said it for years and I will say it agian just to bore you all

Standardise the rear wing and remove all the pokey out bits.

A std rear wing will have a set downforce at the rear so no point in having enormous downforce at the front there are currently to many regulations in F1, inovation has to be encouraged and not stiffled as is the current setup. when was the last radical idea ?

Shug's right you don't want to move things to the dark ages but you have to reduce costs and encourage inovation. at least till a car starts to walk every race, then you ban it