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Post by campbell » Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:35 am

OK so my 7 year old Blueflame burble-meister exhaust is now dying. If I can't get it welded I will have to source a new stainless item. It's been a long time since I researched exhausts so I'm looking for some input here.

I'm aware of:

- Janspeed Supersport (original Lotus supplied upgrade, too loud and generally wasp-like)
- Janspeed Roadsport (looks more substantial but no idea of sonic quality / volume vs Supersport?)
- Christopher Neil
- Brooke Kensington
- Blueflame (newer version of mine, smaller "can" therefore louder...have heard Ian's with no cat, ouch!)
- Magnex (long time since I've seen one of these but they did do one)
- Larini (believe loud as feck)
- Eliseparts (believe on the loud side as well)
- Quicksilver Supersport (Hangar 111 sell, for example, sounds OK on the video clips they've got)

So basically looking to see who has what, and find a way (God knows how) to arrive at an assessment of loudness / tone.

I want something a little more attractive than the silent standard affair, but which is just as silent when cruising / on light throttle, but provides a bit of soundtrack under load.

Oh, and I am on a tight (well currently non-existent) budget!

thanks all

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[edited to add Quicksilver item]
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Post by H8OAG » Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:31 am

Christopher Neil
They are a bit fruity, well made and very light.
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Post by campbell » Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:17 am

Thanks Iain, could be one of the potentials. I will mention your name ;-)
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Re: S1 exhaust varieties

Post by DaveG » Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:47 pm

I replaced the standard exhaust on my old S1 with the Brooke Kensington job. Had a lovely rich, rorty tone and a nice howl when you're 'on it' but was perfectly civilised when just cruising along. I loved it.

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Post by philthy » Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:34 pm

best sounding on the s1 is the Oval one fitted to the exige (not biased at all) but it is loud with a de cat
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Post by Stewart » Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:02 pm

I too have a Brooke Kensignton job. Lee installed it during his "contract hire" of my car. Seems fine to me especially since I put the cat back on. Not particularly loud and perhaps a more sophisticated rounder noise than a Janspeed but I am no expert. Looks to be well enough made. Must be about 3 years old now and 15-20k miles.
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Post by StiflerMR2 » Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:00 am

DaveG wrote:I replaced the standard exhaust on my old S1 with the Brooke Kensington job. Had a lovely rich, rorty tone and a nice howl when you're 'on it' but was perfectly civilised when just cruising along. I loved it.

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Post by fd » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:06 pm

Pretty sure mine is a BK . . . it has also fallen apart in multiple places with lots and lots of metal fatigue cracks . . . but it has done almost 80K miles . . . I'm also in the market for a new stainless exhaust but I want as quiet as possible . . . I had looked at the Janspeed roadsport but IIRC Simon Ironside had one and the rear tail pipes didn't stick out enough at the back and it looked terrible . . . anybody else got one and can comment ?

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Post by campbell » Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:44 pm

fd wrote:Pretty sure mine is a BK . . . it has also fallen apart in multiple places with lots and lots of metal fatigue cracks . . . but it has done almost 80K miles . . . I'm also in the market for a new stainless exhaust but I want as quiet as possible . . . I had looked at the Janspeed roadsport but IIRC Simon Ironside had one and the rear tail pipes didn't stick out enough at the back and it looked terrible . . . anybody else got one and can comment ?

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Post by offshorematt » Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:51 pm

I've got the Larini and decat on my S1 and think it sounds great. Quite deep but not droney at speed. Certainly nothing compared to the Exige's Janspeed with decat. The neighbours hate that one aready :wink:

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Post by graeme » Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:21 am

Larini every time. You're a cat-on sort of fella so it won't be too loud for trackdays. Also, it's very much a nicely tuned, 'acoustically engineered' loud, not the sort of loud that seems to be an inconvenient by-product of performance (Eliseparts etc)
At low revs and light throttle it is very civilised - quieter than but similar to the Janspeed supersports. Nice for not being a tit around town. At mid revs/throttle (motorway ish) it sounds similar to others (i.e. nice and no louder) and at high revs and open throttle it fantastic - louder than average with really raspy sort of bike/F1 tones.
It won't disappoint. :)

The JS RoadSport as fitted to the Shared Shed sounds very nice. Not too loud with a REALLY nice and quite unique burbly style, but as Fd points out it looks sh*t and burns the clam due to short tailpipe length.

Another point is that most twin pipes are 2x2.5". The Larini is 2x3" which fills the clam hole nicely (Shug, you got your ears on, good buddy?) and looks much better IMO.
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Post by campbell » Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:58 pm

So you have a Larini then, Graeme?

Good review. Just need to find some prices.
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Post by campbell » Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:25 pm

Useful, if slightly out of date, SELOC wiki entry here too:

http://wiki.seloc.org/a/Exhaust_silence ... e_S1,_340R

...and a Brooke Kensington review plus summary of other options courtesy of Southrun:

http://www.southrun.co.uk/elise_exhaust_review.php
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Post by hiscot » Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:41 pm

campbell
you have missed the two types of back box baffled and asorbtion , for a tuned engine i would always go for the asorbtion
i use a huge kmotec with a cat its whisper quiet, without it howls
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Post by campbell » Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:52 pm

Thanks, a distinction I had no knowledge of whatsoever!!
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