S2 wheel bearing.

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S2 wheel bearing.

Post by pete » Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:58 pm

In a fit of enthusiasm for mechanicking I'm going to change a wheel bearing on my motor car. Is it straight forward? Fortunately Graeme is going to help* but I thought if I asked here first I'd have an idea what we were doing** and would thus look knowledgable and be able to contribute more than making the tea.

So is there anything more on an S2 than take wheel off and change the wonky bit*** :D

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*and provide 92% of the know how. (My 8% being knowing where the spanners are).
**So don't tell Graeme I asked.
***I'm not sure it's a wheel bearing (pretty sure though) and have no idea which of the rear ones it is. I'm hoping it'll be obvious when I take the wheel off though, it's probably flashing or something to indicate a fault.
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Re: S2 wheel bearing.

Post by VXJON » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:02 pm

Probably too late but I think Dom has a couple of spares in his garage


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Re: S2 wheel bearing.

Post by pete » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:11 pm

That's excellent thanks.
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Re: S2 wheel bearing.

Post by robin » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:24 pm

You'll need a suitable torx socket to remove the three bolts that hold the bearing unit to the upright and a 34 or 36mm socket to undo the driveshaft nut (think it's 34 but not 100% sure off the top of my head).

You'll need an impact driver or drill to remove the grub screw that holds the brake disk to the hub flange, unless you've already replaced rear disks in the past and have already drilled out and discarded the grub screw.

You'll need a new drive shaft nut, a new split pin and a torque wrench capable of reaching 220Nm (which is the drive shaft bolt tightening torque) - don't get this wrong or you might be overtaken by your wheel, especially if it's on the pax side. If you have two torque wrenches do it up with both (i.e. to whichever one gets more torque for that setting - it's at the upper range of the average 1/2" drive torque wrench).

You should also use a 3/8" drive torque wrench to tighten the torx head bolts back to 90Nm when fitting new bearing unit. 90Nm is quite a lot and access is a bit limited, hence using the torque wrench rather than the usual "that ought to be tight enough" approach. You do not want these bolts coming out. I would refit using a thread locking compound for good measure in case you under-torque them.

Some time spent making sure your tools fit well is going to save you a heap of grief should you round off any bolt heads.

Procedure is:

Jack up securely, wheel off, handbrake on, in gear for good measure, remove split pin and undo 34 (or maybe 36) drive shaft bolt. If you struggle to keep wheel from turning, pop out center cap from wheel, refit wheel and then lower off jack; with the car chocked, handbrake on, in gear, you should be able to undo the nut.

With the car jacked, wheel off, drive shut nut loose, remove the brake caliper (one cap head bolt and one 17mm normal head bolt) and stash it on the wishbone somewhere to keep it safe.

Remove the brake disk (may require WMD to remove the old grub screw).

Unbolt the three torx head bolts that hold the bearing unit to the upright.

Chuck old bearing away (don't forget to unplug/replug the speedo sensor if doing pax side).

Fit new bearing, thread lock and tighten the three bolts back to 90Nm.

Refit disk (and grub screw if not mullered) and caliper.

Fit new driveshaft nut & tighten to 220Nm, then insert new split pin.

Wheel on.

Job done.

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Re: S2 wheel bearing.

Post by robin » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:26 pm

BTW, if changing fronts there is no big nut in the middle to undo, but otherwise is much the same job.

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Re: S2 wheel bearing.

Post by pete » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:56 pm

robin wrote:BTW, if changing fronts there is no big nut in the middle to undo, but otherwise is much the same job.

Cheers,
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So what you're saying is pay someone to do it?
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Re: S2 wheel bearing.

Post by BiggestNizzy » Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:32 am

pete wrote:
robin wrote:BTW, if changing fronts there is no big nut in the middle to undo, but otherwise is much the same job.

Cheers,
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So what you're saying is pay someone to do it?
No !

easy job it could be worse if you had an S1 it would mean strip off the hub, poke about getting circlips out quick jaunt to stewarton to replace the bearing and refit this sounds like a piece of p155 just print out robins instructions so we don't have to go looking for torque settings. :D

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Re: S2 wheel bearing.

Post by mac » Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:50 am

Isn't the bearing a pressfit?

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Re: S2 wheel bearing.

Post by BiggestNizzy » Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:54 am

mac wrote:Isn't the bearing a pressfit?

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Is it ? I thought it was a sealed unit that just bolted on, My S1 has them pressed into an ally hub carrier. pete no need to worry if it is it just means a trip to stewarton.
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Re: S2 wheel bearing.

Post by mac » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:15 am

I don't know - which is why I asked. I've not yet needed to change the bearings on the S2.


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Re: S2 wheel bearing.

Post by VXJON » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:30 am

Sealed unit :) Remember if it's the rear pax side you will need one with a speed sensor

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Re: S2 wheel bearing.

Post by woody » Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:18 pm

http://www.eliseparts.com/shop/index.ph ... a4d08bfc1b

They are bolt on. AFAIK, I have all the tools inc. the large sockets and torque wrenches should you need them.

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Re: S2 wheel bearing.

Post by BiggestNizzy » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:20 pm

All ready to go wheel off, split pin out and it's a 30mm Nut, oh damn my 30mm socket isn't deep enough to clean the drive shaft, unable to source a deep 30mm socket, split pin back in wheel back on games a bogey :(
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Re: S2 wheel bearing.

Post by robin » Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:54 am

Typical. I thought it was same size as S1 drive shaft nut, but obviously not. Oh well, easy enough to pick up a deep socket and have another go!

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Re: S2 wheel bearing.

Post by pete » Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:42 pm

Socket purchased, see you tomorrow G?
'99 - '03 Titanium S1 111S.
'03 - '10 Starlight Black S2 111S
'11 - '17 S2 135R
'17 - '19 S2 Exige S+
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