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Re: Aussie GP

Post by robin » Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:09 pm

Agreed. fcuk of the highest order if they denied it when asked - it was bound to come out after all - It's one thing to never tell a lie by keeping schtumm, but another to tell a blatant porky. Ho hum. It certainly will have cheered Massa up, though! I'll be on holiday for the next race - may attempt to find some radio to listen to the 5 live commentary, I s'pose.

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Re: Aussie GP

Post by ryallm » Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:36 am

From what I can gather from further news reports last night, both Lewis and the team did indeed blatently lie to the race stewards after the race, and not only that, Hamilton compounded the sin by repeating the lie in post race interviews with the media. If true this really is pretty unforgivable - telling porkies to get yourself on the podium AND to ensure a fellow competitor looses a deserved 3rd place is just not on. They are very lucky to get away with disqualification from the Oz GP - a 2 race ban would be more appropriate IF the media reports are true.

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Re: Aussie GP

Post by kenny » Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:24 am

TRANSCRIPT OF THE RADIO TRANSMISSION...


Lewis Hamilton: The Toyota went off in a line at the second corner, I overtook him, is that OK?

Team: Understood, Lewis. We'll confirm and get back to you.

LH: He was off the track. He went wide.

Team: Lewis, you need to allow the Toyota through. Allow the Toyota through now.

LH: OK.

LH: He's slowed right down in front of me.

Team: OK, Lewis. Stay ahead for the time being. Stay ahead. We will get back to you. We are talking to Charlie.

LH: I let him past already.

Team: OK, Lewis. That's fine. That's fine. Hold position. Hold position.

LH: Tell Charlie I already overtook him. I just let him past.

Team: I understand Lewis. We are checking. Now can we go to yellow G 5, yellow Golf 5.

LH: I don't have to let him past I should be able to take that position back, if he made a mistake.

Team: Yes, we understand Lewis. Let's just do it by the book. We are asking Charlie now. You are in P4. If you hold this position. Just keep it together...

Team: OK, Lewis, this is the last lap. At the end of the lap the safety car will come in, you just proceed over the line without overtaking, without overtaking. We are looking into the Trulli thing, but just hold position.

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Re: Aussie GP

Post by duggiesmith » Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:25 am

McLaren Sporting director Dave Ryan has now been suspended.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 980593.stm

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Re: Aussie GP

Post by jason » Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:43 am

kenny wrote:Reading an interesting book by Maurice Hamilton (5live commentator) at the moment. Seems the underlying feeling throughout F1 is that Max Mosely is hated by all except Ferrari (of course) and he will not stop the harrassment and persecution of McLaren until they are nothings and to hell with F1as a sport in the process.
What's the title of the book, Kenny?

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Re: Aussie GP

Post by tut » Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:14 am

What makes this even more unbelievable is that it is the first race of the season, and it is all over as to who gets third or fourth place.

You think they would save it for a situation that could not of course happen, ie if it had been the last corner on the last lap on the last GP of the season, and it would have decided the World Championship.

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Re: Aussie GP

Post by kenny » Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:54 am

jasonliddell wrote:What's the title of the book, Kenny?

Chequered Conflict Compares the 2007 season to 1986, plus Spygate and all the nonsense associated.

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Re: Aussie GP

Post by jason » Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:03 am

kenny wrote:
jasonliddell wrote:What's the title of the book, Kenny?

Chequered Conflict Compares the 2007 season to 1986, plus Spygate and all the nonsense associated.
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Re: Aussie GP

Post by meatball » Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:07 am

All very odd!

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Re: Aussie GP

Post by tut » Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:50 am

Hamilton just apologising in a Press interview for misleading the Stewards inquiry, but says he did so because he was instructed to by his team manager.

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Re: Aussie GP

Post by kenny » Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:52 am

Looks like McLaren need a scapegoat, trying to avoid another hefty fine perhaps.

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Re: Aussie GP

Post by ryallm » Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:10 pm

Well there it is http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3 ... 53,00.html Lewis has owned up, but blames his team manager for his dishonesty (yeah, right). I am no fan of the muppets in the FIA, but on this occasion they were completely justified. In fact I am surprised a heaftier punishment wasn't given out.

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Re: Aussie GP

Post by tut » Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:29 pm

I know we all believe the FIA(Ferrari International Agency) have their bias's, but this on top of Spygate is going to go badly against them.

Felt sorry for Hamilton, I do believe he has integrity, but he should have gone with his own morals when he was told to lie(sod this "misleading", not telling the truth is a lie), that was one occasion to ignore team orders. Difficult I know as he must regard Ron Dennis and McLaren as his second father, but this has seriously damaged his reputation.

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Re: Aussie GP

Post by mac » Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:31 pm

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Re: Aussie GP

Post by Rory » Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:45 pm

mac wrote:If you sleep with dogs you get fleas.
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