LOT Croft & KH Track Weekend July 18-20 - Croft cancelled
Re: LOT Croft & KH Track Weekend July 18-20 - Croft cancelled
I remember you telling me Robin to just give Jamie the keys and let him take it out. I did and never saw it again for 40 mins.
Funny thing was I never felt a problem with the car on the smooth track, cornering and grip were great, tyres melted at the end of the day, was never passed all day, but it was trying to throw me off the road every time I went over a ridge or bump on the way down on the A90. The back end did take off over the ridge on the pit straight and the revs shot up, but it still went straight. Probably just got used to it and adapted.
tut
Funny thing was I never felt a problem with the car on the smooth track, cornering and grip were great, tyres melted at the end of the day, was never passed all day, but it was trying to throw me off the road every time I went over a ridge or bump on the way down on the A90. The back end did take off over the ridge on the pit straight and the revs shot up, but it still went straight. Probably just got used to it and adapted.
tut
Re: LOT Croft & KH Track Weekend July 18-20 - Croft cancelled
That's because both rear dampers are absolutely shagged.
Also whether it's cause or effect, dampers that don't damp can be related to bent wishbones (you bend the wishbone when you bottom out the damper travel ; this is quite easy to do when the damper has no oil or effective valving; also if you do it when the damper does have oil in it, you're quite likely to be overloading the damper in the process!).
Once the wishbone is bent is exaggerates the bump steer effect of the rear toe links such that small movements up/down causes relatively larger toe angle changes. Of course worn wishbones bushes and the the wishbones flailing about in the subframe mounts will do this too, as you well know - N1 did this quite dramatically IIRC. Best get the rear end stripped and inspected before you do too much more with N3.
Cheers,
Robin
Also whether it's cause or effect, dampers that don't damp can be related to bent wishbones (you bend the wishbone when you bottom out the damper travel ; this is quite easy to do when the damper has no oil or effective valving; also if you do it when the damper does have oil in it, you're quite likely to be overloading the damper in the process!).
Once the wishbone is bent is exaggerates the bump steer effect of the rear toe links such that small movements up/down causes relatively larger toe angle changes. Of course worn wishbones bushes and the the wishbones flailing about in the subframe mounts will do this too, as you well know - N1 did this quite dramatically IIRC. Best get the rear end stripped and inspected before you do too much more with N3.
Cheers,
Robin
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Re: LOT Croft & KH Track Weekend July 18-20 - Croft cancelled
She certainly was going well in the Mule at the end of the day, just needed to let the car do more of the work, and was getting there, making such progress we nearly ran out of fuel as she was getting better by the lap. Think that was what she needed after the gravel trap!robin wrote: Clare could still have improved further if she hadn't chickened out after what was a very minor excursion to the gravel. We were getting plenty of speed along the main straights and her monster braking would have gotten her a few scalps by the time the day was out I think.
Cheers,
Robin

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Tut - know what you mean about the car lifting on the main straight, the Atom used to do it all the time



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Atom 4 - CM425
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G30 M5 Comp
Ferrari 599
Lotus Elise S1 "Shed" spec
Re: LOT Croft & KH Track Weekend July 18-20 - Croft cancelled
Clarkyboy is coming up on Thursday Robin to remove all my shocks for me and I will send them back to Nitron for rebuilding. They probably also have the softest springs on them as I don't think Cowan specified, if so I may uprate them. We can also check the wishbones and rear toe links at the same time.
I bought all new bushes and eight ball joints for Mark to fit before he stopped working, so will put it into Ricky to
get those done. No trackdays coming up for a while so will give her some TLC.
tut
I bought all new bushes and eight ball joints for Mark to fit before he stopped working, so will put it into Ricky to
get those done. No trackdays coming up for a while so will give her some TLC.
tut
Re: LOT Croft & KH Track Weekend July 18-20 - Croft cancelled
apart from FF8 of coursetut wrote: No trackdays coming up for a while so will give her some TLC.
tut

AMG GT-R
Atom 4 - CM425
Lotus Esprit S4S
G30 M5 Comp
Ferrari 599
Lotus Elise S1 "Shed" spec
Atom 4 - CM425
Lotus Esprit S4S
G30 M5 Comp
Ferrari 599
Lotus Elise S1 "Shed" spec
Re: LOT Croft & KH Track Weekend July 18-20 - Croft cancelled
Andy
After Monday I will probably not be allowed to go to trackdays on my own anymore, so looks as if I will be doing less driving in my car.
On the other hand, once they have enough money between them, they could buy N1.
tut
After Monday I will probably not be allowed to go to trackdays on my own anymore, so looks as if I will be doing less driving in my car.
On the other hand, once they have enough money between them, they could buy N1.
tut
Re: LOT Croft & KH Track Weekend July 18-20 - Croft cancelled
What happened to your toe tut?
Re: LOT Croft & KH Track Weekend July 18-20 - Croft cancelled
A mere flesh wound.
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Re: LOT Croft & KH Track Weekend July 18-20 - Croft cancelled
Not another one? It was in the battle against the.......(fill in the blank)robin wrote:A mere flesh wound.
Re: LOT Croft & KH Track Weekend July 18-20 - Croft cancelled
Somebody had left what looked like a BBQ grill on the car park so I kicked it out of the way and the bugger bit me.
As I was dripping blood onto the restaurant floor, Robin made me put a paper serviette around it.
tut
As I was dripping blood onto the restaurant floor, Robin made me put a paper serviette around it.
tut
Re: LOT Croft & KH Track Weekend July 18-20 - Croft cancelled
Sorry to hear that mate - just trying to encourage you to gotut wrote:Andy
After Monday I will probably not be allowed to go to trackdays on my own anymore, so looks as if I will be doing less driving in my car.
On the other hand, once they have enough money between them, they could buy N1.
tut

Hope on Monday they tell you to p*ss of to a nice climate and recuperate their instead - France is quite nice at this time of year from what I've heard


AMG GT-R
Atom 4 - CM425
Lotus Esprit S4S
G30 M5 Comp
Ferrari 599
Lotus Elise S1 "Shed" spec
Atom 4 - CM425
Lotus Esprit S4S
G30 M5 Comp
Ferrari 599
Lotus Elise S1 "Shed" spec
Re: LOT Croft & KH Track Weekend July 18-20 - Croft cancelled
Sorry to hear about N3 Tut and your Toe.
Willing to help with your suspension re build Tut (if needed). Still have all the Ball Joint tools etc from re bulding mine. Its all quite in my garage since the S1 isn't ready.
You know where i am anyway
Alan
Willing to help with your suspension re build Tut (if needed). Still have all the Ball Joint tools etc from re bulding mine. Its all quite in my garage since the S1 isn't ready.
You know where i am anyway
Alan
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Re: LOT Croft & KH Track Weekend July 18-20 - Croft cancelled
Ever considered wearing shoes Tuttut wrote:Somebody had left what looked like a BBQ grill on the car park so I kicked it out of the way and the bugger bit me.
As I was dripping blood onto the restaurant floor, Robin made me put a paper serviette around it. tut


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Re: LOT Croft & KH Track Weekend July 18-20 - Croft cancelled
Do I look like a woofter?
Would lose two seconds a lap around KH if I wore shoes, though I suppose that would then give Andy and Scotty a chance.
tut
Would lose two seconds a lap around KH if I wore shoes, though I suppose that would then give Andy and Scotty a chance.
tut
Re: LOT Croft & KH Track Weekend July 18-20 - Croft cancelled
Know what you mean Andy, and I could still go upto the last minute as Paul has left it open for me.
However common sense, horrible expression, says that it would be better to go out on a high, rather than struggling to keep going, which would not be a pretty sight.
However on Stelvio 2004 which you sign up for months ahead, there was no way that I was going, then in the last week decided I was fit enough, and regardless that I had no hotel, ferry bookings etc, teamed up with Robin and John, and ended up with a momentous two weeks.
So maybe still keep an eye in your mirrors.............
tut
However common sense, horrible expression, says that it would be better to go out on a high, rather than struggling to keep going, which would not be a pretty sight.
However on Stelvio 2004 which you sign up for months ahead, there was no way that I was going, then in the last week decided I was fit enough, and regardless that I had no hotel, ferry bookings etc, teamed up with Robin and John, and ended up with a momentous two weeks.
So maybe still keep an eye in your mirrors.............
tut