Turkish GP

[GregR]

Surprised I'm the first to mention this - maybe you're all off on weekends away or something

Anyway - Vettel's fault or Webber's fault? Should Webber have given him more room? Was Vettel taking an unnecesary risk to satisfy his ego?

The more interesting one was the Button - Hamilton move. Hamilton clearly not a happy chap after the race, and JB seemed to be making a lot of effort to say, "hey, wasn't that fun.." when Lewis was looking unamused. I wonder if Lewis thought that he was turning down the engine/short shifting then suddenly his team-mate, also told to save fuel, suddenly starts racing? In my gut I think that's what it was, and Button was just trying to exert himself. No need really - he's got number 1 on his car, and has won double the number of races Lewis has this year.

Cracking race nonetheless, easily the best dry race so far this season

[BiggestNizzy]

Watched it a few times and at first I wasn't sure but if you watch the white line from vettels onboard camera he comes across webber so Vettel's fault.

[StiflerMR2]

Totally Vettel's fault imo

Webber left him room and Vetterl tried to pull across before he had actually passed him. Only one person to blame in my eyes (but then I quite like Webber, seems like a good bloke and I hope he goes all the way this year).

Vettels got a proper strop on because Webber has been winning and Vettel is no longer clearly No.1 in the garage and wanted to prove a point, he did, the point being he's an impetuous tool. I had him tipped for the championship this year as well (which of course he may still win).

Can't believe Horner s reaction tbh, but then I'm not a fan of him either

[S111Y TT]

Wow that annoys me,

How can he honestly have the nerve to call his team mate crazy when he was 100% in the wrong. Then in the press conference later, it's unbelievable. I know what they do to broken horses, well I think Vettel should be taken round the back and the process repeated. No respect for Red Bull Racing, and by the looks of things they will lose a lot of support from this, and also how it has been handled within the team. Apologies have to be made to Webber so they can save what dignity they have left.

I would also pay to see Webber's little discussion with Vettel behind the camera's. Be funny to see Vettel racing with a black eye I think. Or a broken jaw. How would you guys handle it?

[mikeyb13]

A bit sneeky by Button but did anyone see the state of Hamiltons front tyres at the end. Dont think he could have done much if Button had another go at him

Vettels fault all the way in the Webber incident. Dont you just love mad racing drivers?

[Lazydonkey]

On the red bull thing, for me it was just Vettels fault - but i'd rather see them race like than never take any risks.

The button move was sweet and exactly the sort of thing Lewis would hvae done in the same circumstances - a nice wee mind game from Jenson.

[kenny]

It was Vettels fault, how anyone can say any different is beyond me. Webber left him enough space to pass, what was he supposed to do, leave the door wide open for him? Vettel had the lead then veered erractically into Webber.
Very, very dissapointed in Horners comments, clearly Vettel is the favoured driver at RB. I was starting to warm to Mark Webber and beginning to think he could actaully win it, this may turn the tide against him for the rest of the season.

Did enjoy Button and Hamilton going for it. It was obvious at the end Hamilton wasn't happy, or confused as he put it. They had both been told to save fuel which to any sensible person should also mean don't race each other. It was an opportunistic and cheeky move but ultimately pointless which probably caused Hamiltons 'confusion'.

[Ferg]

TBH Webber gave him to much room in the first place. But Vettel was totaly at fault for pulling quite suddenly across Webber once he realised he was going to go way to deep into the corner. Hats off to Webber to keeping his cool in the press conference, I think it shows the quality of his character to keep it for the back room. And like Tut says, I bet that was a barny!

The Button move came before the fuel call, if the coverage is anything to go by. I was really pleased to see Button's move on Schumi earlier on and then the one on Lewis.

[Corranga]

Was a decent enough dry race.

Never been a big fan of Webber as a driver (though I like his character/as a person), I think he's a damn good reliable number 2, but he often seems to lack the fire of a proper world champion (same feelings about Button though I think he's proving he's better than that now) and think Vettel has a really decent future in front of him, but he seems to throw the toys out and get sloppy way too often.

I have no doubt it was Vettel's fault, and really hope that Webber doesn't loose the championship by the points difference it caused.

The Button / Hamilton thing looked good, but i'm sure it come after the initial 'use less fuel' call so maybe Button was in the wrong following pseudo team orders. Would have been great to see them go at it, and I have no doubt that Button would have taken the win. Hamilton is easily the better driver in a how fast can they get around a circuit / how many overtakes way, but telling Lewis to look after his tyres seems to be like sticking him in a jewellers with £10k and telling him not to buy anything...

Chris

[Lazydonkey]

Never been a big fan of Webber as a driver (though I like his character/as a person), I think he's a damn good reliable number 2, but he often seems to lack the fire of a proper world champion (

I'd have agreed with you on that at the start of the season but i think he's proved how determined he is with some brilliant poles and equally good races.

[Scotty C]

Im thinking that Webber is as much to blame as Vittel.

If you watch the clip. Vittel totally gets the run on Webber and then almost gets pushed onto the grass. Once Vittel is passed (his car is clearly in front) Webber then should have moved over and given him more space. The car infornt is in the lead, the car behind is to blame

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqwx7w6i ... re=related

All in all its all good that there all making mistakes.

[campbell]

Think I'll have another look at the Red Bull Revolt before commenting.

But as for Button and Hamilton, perhaps just opportunistic, Hammie may have made some kind of error on the turn exit, what else was JB to do. I happen to think Hamilton was off colour afterwards because this was his first race win since his Dad has stopped coming along, and it was also Hammie Snr's 50th birthday. Plus his gf just won some fancy dancing competition which is more than Lewis has done in the last 18 months

[David]

I think this settles it for me!. Webber is turning away at the moment of contact and they're no where near the curb.

[David]

Another just to prove my point!

[StiflerMR2]

Once Vittel is passed (his car is clearly in front) Webber then should have moved over and given him more space.

I'd argue against this, his nose was in front yes, but he wasn't in the lead so to speak. There was still plenty of time and room for Vettle to extend his 'lead' before the corner and then safety pull in and like wise for Webber to make up the small difference under braking. All just imo of course and I know nowt about racing

Looks to me like Vettle tried to bully Webber into moving and the ozzie didn't have any of it as was his right as they were still pretty much level and he had the better line. (I'd like to think he was saying "get it up ya mate" in his helmet )