Winter tyres. Discuss.

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Post by Mike Scib » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:53 pm

Sanjoy wrote:Friday night glass of red and tyre shopping for the winter it is.
Cool let me know when you find a good deal is i am wanting some for my 17's too.....saves me doing the home work :D
alicrozier wrote:As Robin said, need to be comfortable and confident to push right up to the limit - sometimes you only find the limit by going beyond it...
(that's why I think Mike will do fine, that and his lack of imagination). :roll: :lol:

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Post by Sanjøy » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:56 pm

Mike Scib wrote:
Sanjoy wrote:Friday night glass of red and tyre shopping for the winter it is.
Cool let me know when you find a good deal is i am wanting some for my 17's too.....saves me doing the home work :D
This is also known as the danger hour when online shopping. S had several returns to undertake last week....
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Post by Mike Scib » Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:00 am

Sanjoy wrote:
Mike Scib wrote:
Sanjoy wrote:Friday night glass of red and tyre shopping for the winter it is.
Cool let me know when you find a good deal is i am wanting some for my 17's too.....saves me doing the home work :D
This is also known as the danger hour when online shopping. S had several returns to undertake last week....
:damnfunny

225 45 17 front could go down to 215 if cheaper and 255 40 17 rear, reckon you could go down to 235, might need to go up to 45 however,

Do you or don't you buy runflat winters? ££££ :shock:
alicrozier wrote:As Robin said, need to be comfortable and confident to push right up to the limit - sometimes you only find the limit by going beyond it...
(that's why I think Mike will do fine, that and his lack of imagination). :roll: :lol:

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Post by Sanjøy » Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:15 am

Mike Scib wrote:
225 45 17 front could go down to 215 if cheaper and 255 40 17 rear, reckon you could go down to 235, might need to go up to 45 however,

Do you or don't you buy runflat winters? ££££ :shock:
Was thinking 225/45 all round, read even though they are staggered they would fit.
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Post by Mike Scib » Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:35 am

Thought they might look a little stretched on the rear but seem okay.....

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85623

Plus only 2mm smaller on the overall tyre diameter :thumbsup

Edit to add;

When i bought my 330d it came with new Rainsport tyres on the rear. However the traction control system did not like them and became over sensitive so BMW ended up fitting new standard fit Pilots Sports (car was bought from BMW). Would be worried that going to a 225 on the rear my lead to the same issue? :?
alicrozier wrote:As Robin said, need to be comfortable and confident to push right up to the limit - sometimes you only find the limit by going beyond it...
(that's why I think Mike will do fine, that and his lack of imagination). :roll: :lol:

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Post by Stevoraith » Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:33 am

My 330 has 255s on the rear as standard and for winter I fitted non-staggered 17s with 225s all round.

Traction control light was a bit more active than on the 255s but only really for the first few hundred miles- think the softer winter compounds maybe take longer to scrub in?

If you think about it, the SE models come with non-staggered wheels and 225s all round (my wheels were from a 330 SE) so you should be fine.

Would be interested to hear if you find a good deal as I'm looking for some in the same size for the Octavia. Prices seem astronomical at the moment- same tyres I got last year for £80 a corner are now at £140!
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Post by KevD » Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:56 am

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4x-2254517-225-45 ... 822wt_1143 winter dunlops for £460?

You coupld pick up pre-worn with 4.5mm for about £80 a pair, we did that on mini and got 6,000 mile in over winter without issue, will get at least another season out of them.

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Post by Mike Scib » Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:08 pm

Stevoraith wrote:If you think about it, the SE models come with non-staggered wheels and 225s all round (my wheels were from a 330 SE) so you should be fine.
Not so sure as i would be surprised if the traction control was not set differently for the narrower tyres on a SE.

Was having a quick look last night and it looks to be £150 ish for a 225 45 17 and £200 ish for a 255 40 17 rear. So £100 more on a set of tyres that should see 3 winters plus. All be it the 255 probably wont be as good in the snow as a 225 for the 2 weeks its snows.
KevD wrote:You coupld pick up pre-worn with 4.5mm for about £80 a pair, we did that on mini and got 6,000 mile in over winter without issue, will get at least another season out of them.
Winter tyres are recommended to be changed at 4mm :wink:

Not saying they wont be better than a normal tyre but will be passed there best. I will however run mine down to the wear markers :lol:
alicrozier wrote:As Robin said, need to be comfortable and confident to push right up to the limit - sometimes you only find the limit by going beyond it...
(that's why I think Mike will do fine, that and his lack of imagination). :roll: :lol:

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Post by campbell » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:12 pm

Stevoraith wrote:My 330 has 255s on the rear as standard and for winter I fitted non-staggered 17s with 225s all round.

Traction control light was a bit more active than on the 255s but only really for the first few hundred miles- think the softer winter compounds maybe take longer to scrub in?

If you think about it, the SE models come with non-staggered wheels and 225s all round (my wheels were from a 330 SE) so you should be fine.

Would be interested to hear if you find a good deal as I'm looking for some in the same size for the Octavia. Prices seem astronomical at the moment- same tyres I got last year for £80 a corner are now at £140!
I'll keep my eye on this too. However Skoda recommend 16" rims and a 205 size, I think, and if your insurer starts to show an interest you will need to stick to this. Those rims are hard to get other than new as steels - there are no 6J 16s that I can find in alloy for VAG cars:-(
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Post by Stevoraith » Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:01 pm

Campbell, the 6Jx16 are only if you want to fit snow chains. Otherwise 6.5Jx16 will happilly take a 205 section tyre (16x6.5 with a 205/55 are standard on Elegance models).

If an insurer knows that Skoda recommend a 6J as opposed to a 6.5J, never mind actually checks how wide your rims are after an accident, then I'll be amazed. I certainly would not let it bother me one bit.

I'm too vain for a 16in rim on the vRS though- looks like it's on castors so if I do go for winters I'll be sticking to 17's.
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Post by campbell » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:51 am

Thanks Steve, those are good pointers. Esp re: the 6.5J because this makes it far easier to source alternative wheels via eBay etc. I can live with the Castors Stylee for 4 months of the year, if the price is right. But maybe the 17s will work out similar cost overall...we'll see.

If one has an accident on snow tyres, I would assume there is every possibility that the insurer WILL take a closer look at what's on there, in detail, in an attempt to wriggle out of a claim. Such is that industry these days :-(

OTOH, my plan is to contact our insurers - fairly soon actually - to ask if they have any specific requirements or advice ref fitting winter tyres. Unless they make an explicit statement about manufacturer specs, I'll be doing much like you I expect :-)
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Post by Sanjøy » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:14 pm

Camskill are not getting stock till Sept.

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Post by BigD » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:20 am

Camskill were useless last year for winter tyres. They never had any stock so I ordered from mytyres before the snow came and the prices all shot up. Quick check and they have the 225 x 45 x 17 Nankang SV2's which I used last year for £78. They come from Germany I think so they always seem to have stock. :)

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Post by thinfourth » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:28 pm

For those in the northeast i reccomend Angus Tyres as they can get tyres at a decent price and had no problems with winter tyres

On a side note i've been running on winter tyres since winter and had no problems
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Post by Stevoraith » Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:25 pm

Just managed to pick up a bargain set of winters for the Octy.

Set of genuine Audi winter wheels which are the same design as those used on early versions of the current A3 but are only 6Jx17.
Guy bought them last year from Audi but has since sold his S3. Fitted with Dunlop Winter Sport tyres with 7mm of tread in the perfect (for the Octy) size of 205/50/17.

All for the princely sum of £500. I'm quite chuffed, think they might even look ok when fitted too.

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