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Re: AMP3 2010 - In car video

Post by David » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:20 pm

I'd second that as a great mini-guide. The R400 is on the quicker side of most cars and I do spend a lot of track time overtaking. The main thing is to change line slowly, but confidently. I see it as my responsibility to overtake safely, not the car I'm overtaking. There's nothing worse than being tempted in to a gap that disappears so don't return to line too late.
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Re: AMP3 2010 - In car video

Post by OlberJ » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:34 pm

alicrozier wrote:Here's my unofficial but recommended technique Gav:
I'm going to borrow that for our PH Beginners track day thread if you don't mind?

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Re: AMP3 2010 - In car video

Post by alicrozier » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:45 pm

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alicrozier wrote:Here's my unofficial but recommended technique Gav:
I'm going to borrow that for our PH Beginners track day thread if you don't mind?
No problem, use it as your own. :)
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Re: AMP3 2010 - In car video

Post by Andy G » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:11 pm

Ali being sensible - great guide.

just dont ask him to rugby tackle you :damnfunny

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Re: AMP3 2010 - In car video

Post by CubanGav » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:59 pm

Top advice

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Post by Modena Scotland » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:18 pm

Andy G wrote:Ali being sensible - great guide.

just dont ask him to rugby tackle you :damnfunny

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Re: AMP3 2010 - In car video

Post by Ferg » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:41 pm

Great advice, I had been looking for guidance on that very thing. You can see a good example of me getting stuck off line near the start of the first video. The more the differential in speed develops, the harder it becomes. Once the column starts streaming past It's quite intimidating. Keeping your speed up and moving back to take the line definitely requires confidence, in yourself and the other track users. Something to work on definitely.

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Re: AMP3 2010 - In car video

Post by Modena Scotland » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:50 pm

I am always aware of the cars in front of me. As far as I am concerned, its the car behind who need to keep close eye on the cars in front. If one crashes into a car in front, its his fault.

What annoys me are the drivers who do not watch their mirrors. Even worse, the ones who do but don't let you pass. Always tend to be same drivers.......
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Re: AMP3 2010 - In car video

Post by campbell » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:00 pm

Yep. And I think mirror watching is one of the toughest things for the newbies, since very often they feel tempted to look in them just when they need all their wits about them for looking forwards too...that's why quieter novice trackdays are a tremendous idea, getting people into the basics in a very non-threatening environment. Like driving itself, once you've got the trackday basics you can pretty much mix it with anyone (within reason!) I think.
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Post by Modena Scotland » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:08 pm

Campbell, I usually find the novices good with their mirror checks. Novices are easily spotterd and all seasoned drivers give them the space they need.

I was talking about some of the regulars I share the track with often :x
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Re: AMP3 2010 - In car video

Post by tut » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:09 pm

Very rarely have one of those Mass, but if I do what is quite effective is to pull alongside him on the right on one of the straights, don't overtake but just smile sweetly at him.

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Re: AMP3 2010 - In car video

Post by Modena Scotland » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:12 pm

I do that too, Tut :damnfunny I also weave a lot in case they don't see me.

Still, they should know better!
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Post by Modena Scotland » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:20 pm

tut wrote:Very rarely have one of those Mass....

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I think its because the speed difference between your car against theirs is bigger than mine :cry:

or they just respect you more :blackeye
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Re: AMP3 2010 - In car video

Post by robin » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:13 am

The problem usually comes when one car is chasing another and the car in front is trying to get away - a personal race between two drivers on a track day - it happens all the time.

There is then a clear temptation to use the slower traffic as an obstacle to block the car behind, so the car in front goes for the overtake when it's questionable and the car behind has the blinkers on and barges through when in fact they should let the slower traffic have the corner, regardless of line/speed.

I have no time for clowns like this.

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Re: AMP3 2010 - In car video

Post by tut » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:49 am

You would have to be a couple of wankers to drive like that, though as you say it does happen, but I would hope not intentionally on here.

Obviously drivers do lap together, it's half the fun, but if you get split which often happens with slower cars in front, you have the straight coming up to try and safely catch up again, and the same will happen to the cars that you were with. As on a road run, you can easily link up again.

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