Gordon Murray T25 /T27

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Gordon Murray T25 /T27

Post by j2 lot » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:28 pm

Wondered what the SE thoughts on these are? Finally going into production for sale in 2016. Murray is a genius and has the midas touch but it will take some doing to get the British public into this in a big way, foreign buyers will be easier to find I think as they took to the Smart in a way the UK never did.
I am also surprised it has taken so long to get them to manufacturing (and still 3 years to go) given they have been around for so long.

I quite like the quirky styling and thats its a different take on things and you can pretty much guarantee that it will be fun to drive if the Murray DNA is in there.
I guess the success or failure depends on who has bought the right to put their name on it. :?

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Re: Gordon Murray T25 /T27

Post by Shug » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:05 pm

TBH, I think it's less about the car (which is typically Murray singleminded genius) but the production method. Meaning a non specialist can buy the concept and production method without having a massive existing car infrastructure. Interested to see who has bought the rights... If it's (for example) an Apple, or the like, then I think it'll win or lose on the marketing - the company who's bought in will be key to this.
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Re: Gordon Murray T25 /T27

Post by Rosssco » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:52 pm

Shug wrote:TBH, I think it's less about the car (which is typically Murray singleminded genius) but the production method. Meaning a non specialist can buy the concept and production method without having a massive existing car infrastructure. Interested to see who has bought the rights... If it's (for example) an Apple, or the like, then I think it'll win or lose on the marketing - the company who's bought in will be key to this.
You can almost imagine a company like Google or Apple buying the concept / production method, then put their own brand onto it (styling cues, interior, user interface) and out-fitting it with the latest inter-connectivity to you phone / computer / cloud etc. (I know some cars can do this already to an extent) and offering it very much as a 'life-style' product for the masses / unimaginative.

The alternative is a car manufacturer who can trade on their existing car brand.

BMW are doing a similar thing with their i3..
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Re: Gordon Murray T25 /T27

Post by Doc883 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:14 pm

You really wouldn't want to get hit by a Range Rover whilst driving that thing, so for that reason I'm out :wink:
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Re: Gordon Murray T25 /T27

Post by j2 lot » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:20 pm

Doc883 wrote:You really wouldn't want to get hit by a Range Rover whilst driving that thing, so for that reason I'm out :wink:
"Independent suspension features all-around, as does proper crash structures and features such as ABS, traction control and an airbag. The tubular steel and composite floor chassis frame creates a chassis that is "exceptionally strong", according to Gordon Murray Design".

With its lifting clamshell to get in the difficulty is probably going to be getting the door open after a prang. :roll:
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Re: Gordon Murray T25 /T27

Post by twisted2fit » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:22 pm

A shame it's so ugly:-(

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Re: Gordon Murray T25 /T27

Post by point n squirt » Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:43 pm

Stick one in the corner of your garage as once it flops should be worth a mint twenty years down the line. Any idea on the rrp?
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Re: Gordon Murray T25 /T27

Post by wil_scotland » Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:49 pm

I am not a fan it is fair to say
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Re: Gordon Murray T25 /T27

Post by mgf » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:27 pm

Should be electric or have a spoiler fitted.

Ed. Just noticed the T27 is electric!
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Re: Gordon Murray T25 /T27

Post by Corranga » Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:51 am

Looks pretty darn ugly to me, could easily be a cheap Chinese car judging solely on the design, though I wonder if this is just simply a concept body stuck on to demonstrate the platform.
Otherwise the clam door thing is crazy..

I like that there is both a small petrol and all-electric versions, though still waiting for someone to make a performance version of something like this, with around 100ish hp small petrol for fun, economy and potentially distance...

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Re: Gordon Murray T25 /T27

Post by mwmackenzie » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:53 am

point n squirt wrote:Stick one in the corner of your garage as once it flops should be worth a mint twenty years down the line. Any idea on the rrp?
You think? lol..... Sinclair C5 not worth a mint these days :lol:
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Re: Gordon Murray T25 /T27

Post by BiggestNizzy » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:04 am

mwmackenzie wrote:
point n squirt wrote:Stick one in the corner of your garage as once it flops should be worth a mint twenty years down the line. Any idea on the rrp?
You think? lol..... Sinclair C5 not worth a mint these days :lol:

A mint one has doubled in value ;)
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Re: Gordon Murray T25 /T27

Post by mwmackenzie » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:48 am

BiggestNizzy wrote:
mwmackenzie wrote:
point n squirt wrote:Stick one in the corner of your garage as once it flops should be worth a mint twenty years down the line. Any idea on the rrp?
You think? lol..... Sinclair C5 not worth a mint these days :lol:

A mint one has doubled in value ;)
I stand corrected :lol: bash on...

I watched a programme on this puddle jumper a while back and have to say it gave me no desire to covett one lol I'm sure there must be a market somewhere for such a contraption :lol:
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Re: Gordon Murray T25 /T27

Post by tut » Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:10 am

Love it. C5 road run, good one for Gareth to join in on. :D

http://c5alive.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1085.45.html

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This one would be fun though.

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Re: Gordon Murray T25 /T27

Post by ikarl » Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:34 am

Doc883 wrote:You really wouldn't want to get hit by a Range Rover whilst driving that thing, so for that reason I'm out :wink:
Think a lot was said in similar lines about the Smart car until it was crash tested.... stood up pretty well by all accounts! Can't see this being that much different imho

(I do note the irony though of a post relating to a crash with a Range Rover; on a site dedicated to 'plastic' cars :mrgreen: )
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