wind my neck in? (gaining more headroom)

[alicrozier]

Fixed seat mounts help, ditching the runners. This is what I have in my 2-11.
http://www.deroure.com/diagrams.asp?TBL ... 0&ST=&SC=0

[tut]

graeme is 6'5"

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whats his username here tut?

graeme

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[Kelvin]

You shouldn't use a harness if your roll over protection is marginal . . you need to be able to move your head in the case of a roll and you cannot do that in harnesses . . . harnesses greatly reduce your ability to avoid getting the top of your head planned off . . .
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Agreed not that I need to worry about that too much. After running harnesses in an Elise for a few years I decided they were dangerous generally for road use as it's too easy to get into bad fitting habits (lap strap half way up the squishy bits of your front rather than across the bony bits of your lap) I also see a lot of harnesses at track days that aren't fitted properly.

[istoo]

You shouldn't use a harness if your roll over protection is marginal . . you need to be able to move your head in the case of a roll and you cannot do that in harnesses . . . harnesses greatly reduce your ability to avoid getting the top of your head planned off . . .
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Agreed not that I need to worry about that too much. After running harnesses in an Elise for a few years I decided they were dangerous generally for road use as it's too easy to get into bad fitting habits (lap strap half way up the squishy bits of your front rather than across the bony bits of your lap) I also see a lot of harnesses at track days that aren't fitted properly.

i hear you there. i had a bad smash on black ice 10 years ago, dived into the passenger seat to avoid a bit impact at about 60ish, no recollection of how i got 100m away after it... the tall rails take 2-3 inches off the seat position. I have been quite aware of this since i bought the car, does make mae nervous i must admit, i might put the belts back in for road use.

[ste7en]

I'm 6'2" long body, short legs. Have installed the Sector 111 Tallrails in my car and they do help with head room and connect the seat to the car more firmly then the stock adjustable rails. (Mine had a little movement)

I bought mine from Sector 111 and got them delivered to a friend who was working in San Diego at the time so saved some money but I've noticed that Seriously Lotus now stock them in the UK.

http://www.seriouslylotus.com/seat-lowe ... -tallrails

They fix the seat lower in the car and also allow you to tilt it. Tilting the seat back means you will also have to move it slightly forward as you need to ensure that in the event of a rear end shunt, your head contacts the seat before the roll bar. This will raise your knees though which may create another problem for you. I got around this by fitting a spacer behind the steering wheel to move it closer and give additional knee clearance. I also got another key cut which I keep on my keyring with the original. I ground the end off the new key so it is t-shaped and this is the key I use in the ignition barrel. When inserted it doesn't protrude beyond the plastic surround of the ignition barrel and this frees up space for my right knee between the sill and the steering column shroud.

The things we have to do to enjoy these little plastic cars!!

Don't know where you are but I'm in Stirling and you're welcome to have a look / sit in my car to see how the changes have made a difference.

[BigD]

May have to look at this myself. If you take the moving rails off the driver seat do these fit on the pax seat so that it would move?

[Shug]

Don't think so, from memory. Pax seat is nestled up against the side rail of the chassis, where the drivers seat is more central to the car - driver's car, see?

[BigD]

Don't think so, from memory. Pax seat is nestled up against the side rail of the chassis, where the drivers seat is more central to the car - driver's car, see?

Ok thanks for the reply. My legs are too long and Pamela's are too short, she can't reach the pax footrest so would've been nice to be able to roll her seat forward. It would also be handy to be able to move one of the seats forward to put the roof behind as it's impossible to do without moving the seat forward. Not sure how big a difference an inch will make in the event of a rollover, gravity will no doubt take over anyway.

Scotty may be able to answer; how was your heid when you rolled?

[Shug]

Don't think so, from memory. Pax seat is nestled up against the side rail of the chassis, where the drivers seat is more central to the car - driver's car, see?

Ok thanks for the reply. My legs are too long and Pamela's are too short, she can't reach the pax footrest so would've been nice to be able to roll her seat forward. It would also be handy to be able to move one of the seats forward to put the roof behind as it's impossible to do without moving the seat forward. Not sure how big a difference an inch will make in the event of a rollover, gravity will no doubt take over anyway.

Scotty may be able to answer; how was your heid when you rolled?

I've seen extended, two stage footrests in S2s. Not sure if yours just has a single footplate, or almost looks like stairs with a pair of staggered footrests? Perhaps worth tracking down if it brings a footplate closer? Also, I remember Scotty making a secure lock-box that doubled up as an extended footrest when he had the 340R, from memory.

[BigD]

Don't think so, from memory. Pax seat is nestled up against the side rail of the chassis, where the drivers seat is more central to the car - driver's car, see?

Ok thanks for the reply. My legs are too long and Pamela's are too short, she can't reach the pax footrest so would've been nice to be able to roll her seat forward. It would also be handy to be able to move one of the seats forward to put the roof behind as it's impossible to do without moving the seat forward. Not sure how big a difference an inch will make in the event of a rollover, gravity will no doubt take over anyway.

Scotty may be able to answer; how was your heid when you rolled?

I've seen extended, two stage footrests in S2s. Not sure if yours just has a single footplate, or almost looks like stairs with a pair of staggered footrests? Perhaps worth tracking down if it brings a footplate closer? Also, I remember Scotty making a secure lock-box that doubled up as an extended footrest when he had the 340R, from memory.

Pretty sure it's just a single one. An extended one would help on short journeys but I rely on that space when the car is loaded. I'll keep an eye out for extended ones and see what they look like.

[Dominic]

Not sure if it would be the same as an S1, but my pax footrest is simply velcro'd into place. Ease to fix some heavy duty velcro further along the footwell and reposition. Would also give a greater storage area beyond Pam's feet.

Failing that, some old beans tins tied to the soles of her shoes

[Shug]

Not sure if it would be the same as an S1, but my pax footrest is simply velcro'd into place. Ease to fix some heavy duty velcro further along the footwell and reposition. Would also give a greater storage area beyond Pam's feet.

Failing that, some old beans tins tied to the soles of her shoes

Problem is that it's not really the velcro that gives it the pushback against your feet - it's the fact it's nestled up against the crossmember - the velcro just stops the front lifting really... Worth a punt, but I don't think it would last long before ripping off.

WRT space - the two-stage one I saw was actually a little lower profile than the standard one, like two steps of a ladder. Just had a quick look on the bay of fleas, but they do appear to be rocking horse poo and deroure list them as a factory order item at £98 (ouch)

[Dominic]

Not sure if it would be the same as an S1, but my pax footrest is simply velcro'd into place. Ease to fix some heavy duty velcro further along the footwell and reposition. Would also give a greater storage area beyond Pam's feet.

Failing that, some old beans tins tied to the soles of her shoes

Problem is that it's not really the velcro that gives it the pushback against your feet - it's the fact it's nestled up against the crossmember - the velcro just stops the front lifting really... Worth a punt, but I don't think it would last long before ripping off.

WRT space - the two-stage one I saw was actually a little lower profile than the standard one, like two steps of a ladder. Just had a quick look on the bay of fleas, but they do appear to be rocking horse poo and deroure list them as a factory order item at £98 (ouch)

Fair enough.... add a short plank, also vecro'd down to give the "push off resistance" Woody could make up a set of his bespoke carpet mats to fit around it all.

[neil]

I've got the double footrest in mine due to having a 5 foot girlfriend. It works well and there's plenty of room above it for storage. It's not a perfect fit in an S2 so needs slightly trimmed to fit. Wasn't cheap either as Shug says but well worth it.

[PieterA]

Also, harnesses without seats with harness holes is an absolute no no.