Toe link hairy moment!

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Re: Toe link hairy moment!

Post by I-Mac » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:40 pm

Sadly not, it is for an S1.

Pete at Seriously Lotus is worth a shout for the S2?
http://www.seriouslylotus.com/track-rac ... e-link-kit
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Re: Toe link hairy moment!

Post by Mellow Yellow » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:45 pm

This thread makes crazy reading, I'll be getting an upgraded set asap. Well done on the save! Couldn't stop thinking about this on the drive home tonight, don't think I went over 30mph lol

Are there any other safety related gremlins that can occur on the s2?

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Re: Toe link hairy moment!

Post by Scottd » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:31 pm

Mellow Yellow wrote:..........Are there any other safety related gremlins that can occur on the s2?
I wouldn't call it a gremlin, parts will wear out on any car. And if you look at most of the one's in this thread that have failed - it's either ancient S1's ;) or cars driven to the max and then some. Or both :D

My car sadly falls into just the ancient category (15 years old - ouch) so I should really think about replacing them.... but they're just so expensive! However the grip on my new Yokohama Advans really is making me think it's time for a pre-emptive strike :cry:

I remember Shugs failure, it didn't look pretty and I think the consensus was that, especially grippy tyres was a contributing factor?


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Re: Toe link hairy moment!

Post by Stephen » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:28 am

Scott the parts from McGill are good and the whole kit comes in at about £120
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Re: Toe link hairy moment!

Post by Shug » Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:43 am

Scottd wrote:
Mellow Yellow wrote:..........Are there any other safety related gremlins that can occur on the s2?
I wouldn't call it a gremlin, parts will wear out on any car. And if you look at most of the one's in this thread that have failed - it's either ancient S1's ;) or cars driven to the max and then some. Or both :D

My car sadly falls into just the ancient category (15 years old - ouch) so I should really think about replacing them.... but they're just so expensive! However the grip on my new Yokohama Advans really is making me think it's time for a pre-emptive strike :cry:

I remember Shugs failure, it didn't look pretty and I think the consensus was that, especially grippy tyres was a contributing factor?


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Scott's on the money - the vast majority of failures can be attributed to lots of kerb leaping track use, sticky tyres or older cars where the balljoints on the links seize. For exclusively road use on road tyres, you're unlikely ever to have an issue.

And yes, when they go (mine went on the road after a Tut Towers in a third gear right hander) they focus the mind somewhat. Mine was running semi-slicks with aggressive geo for years before one popped - and it ended up being a balljoint seizure that caused it.
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Re: Toe link hairy moment!

Post by woody » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:01 am

Regarding the ball-joints seizing; is there a way to check this without disassembling the link?

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Re: Toe link hairy moment!

Post by Stephen » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:03 am

Just grab a hold of the toe link bar and rotate it. It should rotate freely on the ball joints. If it doesn't then one or both are seized. On mine it was the outer joint that seized and then broke.
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Re: Toe link hairy moment!

Post by Scottd » Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:49 pm

Stephen wrote:Scott the parts from McGill are good and the whole kit comes in at about £120
SWEET! I saw ur post but I didn't add it all up. I'll call them tomorrow with your list in hand! Cheers Stephen
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Re: Toe link hairy moment!

Post by Stephen » Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:07 am

Scot you will need to get a couple of bits from deroure too. A pair of heat shields and the conical spacers. They are not expensive though.
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Re: Toe link hairy moment!

Post by Stephen » Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:30 pm

Scott
The other parts you need are listed on the attached diagram. You will need part 12 *2 one for each side they are handed! Depending on whether you have steel or alloy to you will need either 22*2 or 1&2*2.
The only issue that I had is that the dislocation top hat spacers from McGill must be thicker / longer than the ones that lotus do so I had a gap of 2-3mm between the double shear heat shield bracket and the subframe. I just horses it on but intend to take things back off and file the top hats down a bit.
You need the top hats as the rose joints specified have an id of 12mm (stronger) where the cap bolt is 10mm. I also used 4*90mm cap bolts and appropriate lock nuts. If you have alloy hub carriers I think you will need 2*80mm for the inners and 2*100mm for the outers. I just got 4 of each and used what fitted best as they are cheap.
Best of luck.

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