S2 Toe Links

The place to "speak geek"
User avatar
BigD
Posts: 3209
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:02 pm
Location: Falkirk

Re: S2 Toe Links

Post by BigD » Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:49 pm

What happened when the second one broke?

User avatar
mckeann
Posts: 5370
Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:20 am
Location: Bo'ness

Re: S2 Toe Links

Post by mckeann » Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:39 pm

I had been thrashing around anglesey for half a day, until robins exhaust broke and we headed to halfords to try and get a repair kit. I was driving along a residential street at 30mph and the bolt snapped under no load whatsoever.

Elise-shop said that we (robin and i) fitted it incorrectly and denied anything was wrong with the kit. I was never entirely happy with that answer but couldn't prove otherwise.

User avatar
robin
Jedi Master
Posts: 10546
Joined: Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:39 pm

Re: S2 Toe Links

Post by robin » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:33 pm

Hi,

The captive bolt that is part of the ball joint won't break if reasonably new; they break simply due to corrosion, not because they aren't strong enough. I don't think the ball joint part is very expensive, and were it me, I would simply replace them now and then think about it taking another look at them in 2-3 years or, if you take up endurance racing, after each race :-)

You are right that the top bolts are the ones that go through the camber shims and yes the 10.9 is the one to use - actually can be quite challenging to get to the full tightening torque given the cap-head design and the space available for getting at it.

Cheers,
Robin
I is in your loomz nibblin ur wirez
#bemoretut

woody
Posts: 5636
Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2005 4:03 pm
Location: Southside Triangle

Re: S2 Toe Links

Post by woody » Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:20 pm

Found these. Any use?

Image

User avatar
BigD
Posts: 3209
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:02 pm
Location: Falkirk

Re: S2 Toe Links

Post by BigD » Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:02 pm

They look a tad long woody. :)

User avatar
BigD
Posts: 3209
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:02 pm
Location: Falkirk

Re: S2 Toe Links

Post by BigD » Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:06 pm

robin wrote:Hi,

The captive bolt that is part of the ball joint won't break if reasonably new; they break simply due to corrosion, not because they aren't strong enough. I don't think the ball joint part is very expensive, and were it me, I would simply replace them now and then think about it taking another look at them in 2-3 years or, if you take up endurance racing, after each race :-)

You are right that the top bolts are the ones that go through the camber shims and yes the 10.9 is the one to use - actually can be quite challenging to get to the full tightening torque given the cap-head design and the space available for getting at it.

Cheers,
Robin
Thanks Robin, The ballpoints are only £40 ish each so yes would make sense to renew them, just wanted to make sure they would be fit for purpose.

User avatar
T6 KFR
Posts: 347
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:27 pm
Location: Aberdeen

Re: S2 Toe Links

Post by T6 KFR » Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:37 am

I was down at MMC yesterday for a service and guess what , my toe links are seized.

Bit of a bummer cause it means another trip down and day off work.

User avatar
Stephen
Posts: 1439
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:43 pm
Location: Brocketsbrae Nr Lesmahagow

Re: S2 Toe Links

Post by Stephen » Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:21 am

As I said Craig told me that mine were seized and to put them on my to do list. They broke a lot quicker than I expected so be wary.
If you're not living on the edge you're wasting too much space!

User avatar
T6 KFR
Posts: 347
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:27 pm
Location: Aberdeen

Re: S2 Toe Links

Post by T6 KFR » Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:26 am

Stephen wrote:As I said Craig told me that mine were seized and to put them on my to do list. They broke a lot quicker than I expected so be wary.
Thanks i will, maybe best i order the parts from eliseparts and get them fitted and geo locally like redline or someone similar

User avatar
campbell
Posts: 17336
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:42 pm
Location: West Lothian
Contact:

Re: S2 Toe Links

Post by campbell » Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:29 pm

I'm concluding the std parts are fine.

UJI getting a new set shortly. Seized also.
http://www.rathmhor.com | Coaching, training, consultancy

User avatar
Mike Scib
Posts: 2995
Joined: Sat May 26, 2007 5:04 pm

Re: S2 Toe Links

Post by Mike Scib » Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:55 pm

Anyone know where you can pick up the hub carrier bolts on line as I am no where near Murrays really.

:cheers
alicrozier wrote:As Robin said, need to be comfortable and confident to push right up to the limit - sometimes you only find the limit by going beyond it...
(that's why I think Mike will do fine, that and his lack of imagination). :roll: :lol:

User avatar
Stephen
Posts: 1439
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:43 pm
Location: Brocketsbrae Nr Lesmahagow

Re: S2 Toe Links

Post by Stephen » Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:04 pm

elise parts or elise shop. I think they are just standard cap bolts though, so if you have the size you could just pick them up from an on line or local ironmonger. Make sure you get the right spec though
If you're not living on the edge you're wasting too much space!

User avatar
Mike Scib
Posts: 2995
Joined: Sat May 26, 2007 5:04 pm

Re: S2 Toe Links

Post by Mike Scib » Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:16 pm

:cheers

Always forget about Elise Shop :thumbsup
alicrozier wrote:As Robin said, need to be comfortable and confident to push right up to the limit - sometimes you only find the limit by going beyond it...
(that's why I think Mike will do fine, that and his lack of imagination). :roll: :lol:

User avatar
Mellow Yellow
Posts: 91
Joined: Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:51 am

Re: S2 Toe Links

Post by Mellow Yellow » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:08 am

Took a picture of mine today and they look pretty second hand, need to get the mole grips on the bar and see if they are sized but they certainly look it!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fsaf8xlkploed ... 4.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2juz1you7x40u ... 5.jpg?dl=0

User avatar
Shug
Posts: 13835
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:28 pm
Location: Deepest, Darkest Ayrshire

Re: S2 Toe Links

Post by Shug » Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:39 am

Mellow Yellow wrote:Took a picture of mine today and they look pretty second hand, need to get the mole grips on the bar and see if they are sized but they certainly look it!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fsaf8xlkploed ... 4.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2juz1you7x40u ... 5.jpg?dl=0
Don't need mole grips - they should rotate with hand pressure. Get on your knees, grab the bar and try to twist it - shouldn't rattle, but should twist a little on the balljoints smoothly and relatively easily.
2010 Honda VFR1200F
1990 Honda VFR400 NC30
2000 Honda VTR1000 SP1
2000 Kawasaki ZX-7R

Post Reply