electric revolution has fallen flat ... so dont buy electric

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Post by BigD » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:22 am

I think a hybrid gives you the best of both worlds as you can still use the car to go longer distances if you want.

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Post by thinfourth » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:36 am

Dominic wrote:Having driven Simon's A3, I can vouch for its performance, and usual Audi levels of quality.
So it broke down twice and then lied completely about what it was up to
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Post by pete » Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:43 pm

Detroit LEADING the electric revolution.

No-one has ever thought of an electric Elise, well now there is one.

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Post by Dominic » Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:09 pm

pete wrote:Detroit LEADING the electric revolution.

No-one has ever thought of an electric Elise, well now there is one.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-c ... s-pictures
Tesla?
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Post by pete » Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:34 pm

Dominic wrote:
pete wrote:Detroit LEADING the electric revolution.

No-one has ever thought of an electric Elise, well now there is one.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-c ... s-pictures
Tesla?
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Post by j2 lot » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:04 am

Detroit Electric originally used the Lotus Europa chassis and body before the Elise version. They must have been working on getting it to production for close to 10 years - not sure why when the Tesla version has been and gone. :?
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Post by cjm » Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:56 pm

With 4/5% spare power capacity over winter will we not have a few energy/electricity issue pretty quickly if everyone started running about in an electric car?
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Post by graeme » Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:07 pm

ironside wrote:I've had an Audi A3 e-tron on a lease for about 6 months now....

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I've had a go. It's not a good car.





It's a BRILLIANT car. Utterly brilliant. 1.4 turbo with electric torques... far pokier than the numbers suggest. Whirring away silently in electric mode is just spooky. Booting it off a roundabout is impressive. Handling is not noticable different to any other similar car I can think of.

As a business lease for short commutes, I think it was a genius purchase. As a personal purchase, it makes no sense, or I would very much enjoy owning one.

If you can get a test drive in one of these, I really recommend it. I hope it takes off, production numbers increase and price drops. I can't wait till it makes financial sense for me (probably in Passat GTE form).
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Post by robin » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:59 pm

cjm wrote:With 4/5% spare power capacity over winter will we not have a few energy/electricity issue pretty quickly if everyone started running about in an electric car?
I doubt it. The grid delivers about 45GW; 5% of that is 2.25GW. That would charge 5million cars at 5KW-ish each (5KW would recharge a LEAF in 5-7 hours). With some coordination to shift recharge cycles into the quiet hours there would be 3-5 times that available.

But you are right that if the entire UK fleet shifted to electric there would be a bit more of a struggle to power it.

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Post by pshanks76 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:45 pm

There was an electric car parked under my office a few weeks back that could persuade me to go green...

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Post by thinfourth » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:49 pm

It is not as bad as you think

Most folk will charge overnight as that is when they are asleep

Most folk drive 21 miles a day

A leaf averages about 4 miles per kwh

so 5.5 kwh per night

So not a huge amount of power in the grand scheme of things

And in the middle of the night when power consumption is low
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Post by j2 lot » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:29 pm

Tesla have come in for a bit of criticism for reliability/ build quality, although owners still appear to love them:

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/110 ... ports-says
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Post by Sanjøy » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:41 pm

Panels on the roof charging your Tesla home battery system during the day, charges your P85 at night. Grow your own veg and you're off grid.
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Post by chrisdb » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:49 pm

Anyone have a view/experience of the i3? Looks pretty nifty with the range extender option.

I commute about 60 miles a day (30 each way). Need to do sums to see if it would make much of a difference against 40mpg Golf.

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Post by Scotty C » Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:37 pm

Brian Laing on here has one of the very first ones.
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