Spa 21/3/16
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Thanks for the clarification D.
Steve.

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Now that's one "Balsy" corner to go drifting at in the rain, rapid sphincter closure !!!!!BigD wrote:Just had the one 'over run', I won't call it an off as I merely used a bit of the run-off at Pouhon after trying to hold a nice big rear end slide.![]()
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Well would be for me.

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I saw the video before he deleted it ... was only a very minor trouser moment 

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Spa 21/3/16
Yes I definitely wasn't trying to drift round it. Was keeping up with a v6 Exige who kept pulling away on the straights and left my braking too late so was still braking when entering the corner, couple of twitches on the way in with the inevitable slide from the back on turn in.Kinger wrote:Now that's one "Balsy" corner to go drifting at in the rain, rapid sphincter closure !!!!!BigD wrote:Just had the one 'over run', I won't call it an off as I merely used a bit of the run-off at Pouhon after trying to hold a nice big rear end slide.![]()
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Well would be for me.

V6 then got held up in traffic so I caught straight back up again.
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I didn't know you had Nitrons that explains it - it feels exactly like mine in corners. Just a bit quicker on the straights 

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I wouldn't have thought it felt exactly the same, yours should have sprung rates about twice as hard.
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But 4 times as used. lolmckeann wrote:I wouldn't have thought it felt exactly the same, yours should have sprung rates about twice as hard.
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Also Pete had his on full soft. I left mine on full random.
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Mine were on full "as they came out of the box".robin wrote:Also Pete had his on full soft. I left mine on full random.

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I had a sizeable off at Pouhon in the wet, sounds very similar to the above, seriously slippy first session on AO48's and I trailed the brake going in... Ended up doing a 720 coming to rest a long way off the track and scarily close to the tyresBigD wrote:Yes I definitely wasn't trying to drift round it. Was keeping up with a v6 Exige who kept pulling away on the straights and left my braking too late so was still braking when entering the corner, couple of twitches on the way in with the inevitable slide from the back on turn in.Kinger wrote:Now that's one "Balsy" corner to go drifting at in the rain, rapid sphincter closure !!!!!BigD wrote:Just had the one 'over run', I won't call it an off as I merely used a bit of the run-off at Pouhon after trying to hold a nice big rear end slide.![]()
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Well would be for me.
V6 then got held up in traffic so I caught straight back up again.

The rest of my day was dry though and felt like a completely different circuit, red line in 4th doing around 100mph on the exit kerb of Pouhon was a lot more enjoyable than tip-toeing around in the wet.
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I was almost shouting at my self in the helmet, "off the brake, off the brake!!". As even if going in too fast if you're off the brakes you have a chance of making it round with less drama and maybe just a little run wide which is much better than a spin. I just drifted wide and was heading for the green slippy stuff (fake grass I think) so took avoiding action over the green tarmac and onto the runoff then straight back on over the next green tarmac bit. Actually lined up perfectly for the second part of pouhon.KennyT wrote: I had a sizeable off at Pouhon in the wet, sounds very similar to the above, seriously slippy first session on AO48's and I trailed the brake going in... Ended up doing a 720 coming to rest a long way off the track and scarily close to the tyres![]()
The rest of my day was dry though and felt like a completely different circuit, red line in 4th doing around 100mph on the exit kerb of Pouhon was a lot more enjoyable than tip-toeing around in the wet.


I actually really enjoyed the wet as it feels less harsh on the car and sometimes more fun generally at lower speeds so a bit of room for error. For learning the feel of the car its perfect.

I did have a quick look at the speedo exiting Pouhon later on the dry line and yes it was definitely around 100mph.

There wasn't as big a speed difference in the wet on the Kemmel straight as I'd have thought compared to the dry 'ish'. 128mph in the wet and 138mph in the dry.

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Ask Scotty about his off at Pouhon in the flame on 340r...
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BigD wrote: I was almost shouting at my self in the helmet, "off the brake, off the brake!!". As even if going in too fast if you're off the brakes you have a chance of making it round with less drama and maybe just a little run wide which is much better than a spin. I just drifted wide and was heading for the green slippy stuff (fake grass I think) so took avoiding action over the green tarmac and onto the runoff then straight back on over the next green tarmac bit. Actually lined up perfectly for the second part of pouhon.![]()
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D, one thing that I remember from my time driving Elise's disagrees with your point of "off the brake" and it's something Walshy teaches.
Its not so much off the brakes, it's more the speed you come off the brakes. And in this case, coming off the brakes fast is bad. If you're into the corner with the brakes on hard, you can rob cornering grip from the front axle and cause a bit of scrubbing/understeer. This is a great idea through pouhon, it lets you carry extra speed on the way in as you trail brake through the first apex. As you come off the brake though, the front tyres have more cornering grip again so the car starts to turn in. If you come off the brakes quickly, you give the front tyres loads of cornering grip quickly and it unsettles the rear. If you come off the brakes slowly, you let the front come back gradually without upsetting the rear.
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One other thing (that I could never get the grip of) is to do with when you put the throttle on but you need to be left foot braking. If you do as above through pouhon, overload the front with the brakes, even if you come off the brakes very gently, there's a period when the car is slightly unsettled by the engine braking on the rear axle. If your left foot braking, you can use your right foot to crack the throttle a tiny amount, take up the drivetrain slack and reduce the engine braking, so when you come off the brake the rear end is planted.
I could never quite crack the left foot braking though (I was ok if no gear changes were required) so although I've tried it and seen it work, it took too much brain power for me to achieve properly
I could never quite crack the left foot braking though (I was ok if no gear changes were required) so although I've tried it and seen it work, it took too much brain power for me to achieve properly