Global Warming - it's all a scam

[andreww]

How about the fact that the world started heating up at almost the exact point we started burning fossil fuels, just a coincidence ?

Oh please

You live in Scotland You know that place with lots of rolling valleys with big boulders down the bottom that are completely different to the bedrock at the site they sit. its called glacial erosion.

Seen any glaciers recently

No they all melted

Therefore the only conclusion that we can come to is wooly mammoths invented cars and caused global warming to melt them all

Havn't glaciers melted because they are formed high up and in cold regions and then slowly slide downhill and into warmer areas which melts them

My dad is an energy consultant, been in oil industry for 30+ years and now specialises in renewable energy and technologys.
I will see if i can get a fancy scientific answer out of him to defend my point

EDIT

He says noone has 100% proven global warming is caused by our co2 emissions , but it would seem likely due to the warming being so closely related to our usage, noone has disproved it either.
Also that it doesn't really matter whether we are causing it or not, we are already more than 2/3rds of the way through the worlds supply of hydrocarbons, North Sea production has already peaked and is starting to fall and nowadays we are creating more liquid fuels from gas than from oil.
After analysing the data of our comsumption versus production by around 2017 we will be importing 85% off all the fuel we need of which the cost will then be astronomical.
So the real questions is what are we going to replace it with, most sensible option seems to be replacing petrol/diesal with hydrogen and building nuclear power stations to provide the nations electricity, then at night when demand goes down the stations use their excess electricity to supply eletrolysers to create hydrogen.

Discuss

[mac]

not all glaciers are like that - a lot of the landscape in Scotland has been formed by glacier errosion. they are typically identified by their U shaped bottom as opposed to the traditional v shaped from erroison.

there's a few "hanging valleys" such as the grey mare's tail which is a erroded valley cut short by the passage of a glacier.



mac

[Blaque]

A really thought provoking programme.
When I were a lad, I remember a history lesson about orange groves in Devon, and geography teachers telling us that we were heading in to a new Ice Age. David Belamy used to tell us the same on TV. Don’t see much of him these days, funny that.
The truth is, that the planet is an ever changing, ever adapting living thing (Man!). The Earth is 2/3rds water, and although we like to think of ourselves as all conquering, we really don’t inhabit much of the land. We are not that significant in the great scheme of things is what I am trying to say.
Blaming Margret Thatcher for the concept of global warming, because she preferred nuclear power, lost a little bit of credibility in the programme for me. But then again, when you put it together with the vast sums of money, job creation, the amount of industries involved plus keeping third world countries from developing, there are a lot of people with a lot to loose.

Average temperatures are rising there is no doubt about that. But are they rising as fast as they say they are. Most weather stations are situated near airports, I’m no construction or thermodynamic engineer, but huge areas of concrete must retain a large amount of heat.

[gorrie]

i'm with Sir Terry on this one :-

it's all just a ballancing act - we use fossil fuels for heating as we are too cold. once the earth warms we won't need to use them so much so it will cool again.

It's just like your boiler in the house - when the temp get too cold the boiler fires, when it's up to temp it goes off again.

simple really


Mac

Ahh...but then we will need more electricity to run our A/C units in the house

Fossil fuels are a limited supply... they can only last for so long, and as they start getting really critical monopolies will form and prices will rocket... It'll be like Mad-Max... alternative fuels and renewable energies are the future... and that's got nothing to do with Global Warming or CO2 emissions....

[Dominic]

For those that missed the show, it's on again on Monday 12th Mar at 10:00 on More 4.

[ExigeKen]

If global warming is real why was it so blooming cold at Knockhill today

[simon]

Knockhill has it's own climate so has no relevance to either argument

[kenny]

Knockhill has it's own climate so has no relevance to either argument

Also the only known place in the universe to hit absolute zero then get 1 degree kelvin lower.

[ExigeKen]

Also the only known place in the universe to hit absolute zero then get 1 degree kelvin lower.

Inother words what I said blooming cold

[robin]

Imagine a temperature that is so cold the rubber in your tyres freezes harder than concrete.

Imagine a temperature that is so cold that you eyeballs freeze in their sockets.

Imagine a temperature so cold that all the atoms come to a complete stop.

Knockhill is colder than that.

[thinfourth]

Imagine a temperature that is so cold the rubber in your tyres freezes harder than concrete.

Imagine a temperature that is so cold that you eyeballs freeze in their sockets.

Imagine a temperature so cold that all the atoms come to a complete stop.

Knockhill is colder than that.

And thats a good day normally it rains too