VVC Short block to std head?
- steve_weegie
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VVC Short block to std head?
Afternoon all,
After ironsiding / grenading / generally blowing a main journal in the car last night, im on the hunt for a new engine.
Does anybody know of any issues regarding fitting a vvc short block to a std head? Wouldnt have thought so, but just wanted to check. The longer term plan will be to transplant the vvc gubbins across, but that will require an emerald that i dont have yet - hence the purchase of a complete vvc unit rather than a std.
Thanks
Steve
After ironsiding / grenading / generally blowing a main journal in the car last night, im on the hunt for a new engine.
Does anybody know of any issues regarding fitting a vvc short block to a std head? Wouldnt have thought so, but just wanted to check. The longer term plan will be to transplant the vvc gubbins across, but that will require an emerald that i dont have yet - hence the purchase of a complete vvc unit rather than a std.
Thanks
Steve
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Re: VVC Short block to std head?
I thought the blocks where all basically the same just stroked and bored for for anything from the 1.1 to the 1.8.
I await to be called an idiot
So what's it going to be 1.9 or 2.0 ?
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So what's it going to be 1.9 or 2.0 ?
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Re: VVC Short block to std head?
Same block - better specced pistons & liners. It's only the heads that differ.
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Re: VVC Short block to std head?
Was just going to ask if you still had my valve spring compressor (if I even lent it to you?)!!
The block mated to standard head will be fine.
You'll also be fine to fit the whole VVC engine, BTW.
Pretty sure that the mech will sit at whatever phase you park it at until you open either of the hydraulic valves - it doesn't require positive feedback to keep it in the correct position.
Standard duration is 244 degrees; VVC is 220 degrees at min duration, 295 at max duration. But it has much larger valves, so even at 220 degrees it'll probably still work as well as a standard head with standard cams across most of the rev range.
Cheers,
Robin
The block mated to standard head will be fine.
You'll also be fine to fit the whole VVC engine, BTW.
Pretty sure that the mech will sit at whatever phase you park it at until you open either of the hydraulic valves - it doesn't require positive feedback to keep it in the correct position.
Standard duration is 244 degrees; VVC is 220 degrees at min duration, 295 at max duration. But it has much larger valves, so even at 220 degrees it'll probably still work as well as a standard head with standard cams across most of the rev range.
Cheers,
Robin
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Re: VVC Short block to std head?
Thanks for the answers guys.
Robin, I do indeed have your spring compressor... And still owe you a head set... Would insert appropriate blush thingamy here, but I'm on my blackberry. Are you at knockhill tomorrow? I can bring it up then, or drop it to you next week.
Nizzy, shoosh! 1.9 conversions? Not this time round
Robin, I do indeed have your spring compressor... And still owe you a head set... Would insert appropriate blush thingamy here, but I'm on my blackberry. Are you at knockhill tomorrow? I can bring it up then, or drop it to you next week.
Nizzy, shoosh! 1.9 conversions? Not this time round

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Re: VVC Short block to std head?


None of that honda rubbish here please.... Ak-47 spec engine will be in the vicinity shortly

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Re: VVC Short block to std head?
I might well pop up, but don't worry about the stuff - pop it in when you're next in Edinburgh, or maybe I'll pop over when your AK47 arrives 
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Robin

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Re: VVC Short block to std head?
Cool, i'll be in touch Robin
You're welcome at chez weegie anytime... Might even swap you a home cooked curry for some AK47 advice




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Re: VVC Short block to std head?
You posted on another thread that Ali is going to do the engine swap - is that happening at Ali's shop?
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Re: VVC Short block to std head?
That was the plan Robin - i've never done one & the Glasgow south side pavement isn't too accomodating to engine hoists & de-clammed loti 
Cheers,
Steve

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Re: VVC Short block to std head?
Do you mindsteve_weegie wrote:
None of that honda rubbish here please.

Sorry about your car mate sure it will come back better than ever if you fit a V-tec engine

alicrozier wrote:As Robin said, need to be comfortable and confident to push right up to the limit - sometimes you only find the limit by going beyond it...
(that's why I think Mike will do fine, that and his lack of imagination).![]()
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Re: VVC Short block to std head?
Ok... Been looking at a few things and have a quick question. Do all vvc units have the coil packs at the bottom of the engine rather than the bolt on top ones the S2 uses? Is this the difference between EU2 and EU3 engines? Any advice welcomed before i make an expensive mistake! 

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Re: VVC Short block to std head?
S1 VVCs have two coil packs under the intake Plenium.
Dunno about S2 VVCs
I know this doesn't answer the question but it's half way there
Dunno about S2 VVCs
I know this doesn't answer the question but it's half way there

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Re: VVC Short block to std head?
All EU3 engines have plug to coils as far as I am aware.
Cheers,
Robin
Cheers,
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